From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 69286 invoked by alias); 16 Feb 2017 05:28:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 67932 invoked by uid 89); 16 Feb 2017 05:27:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=industry, highly X-HELO: camber.motec.com.au Received: from motec5.motec.com.au (HELO camber.motec.com.au) (115.70.189.242) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:27:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by camber.motec.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C394E160D9B for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:27:30 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from camber.motec.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (camber.motec.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dgDtvo2xA-JH for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:27:15 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from [192.168.0.48] (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by camber.motec.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F6A1771CC for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:27:15 +1100 (AEDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 camber.motec.com.au 91F6A1771CC Subject: Re: Obsolete powerpc*-*-*spe* To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: <20170214030703.GS21840@gate.crashing.org> <58A2F034.2050601@embedded-brains.de> <58A30F89.8040702@westcontrol.com> <58A31381.2090400@embedded-brains.de> <20170214144913.GT21840@gate.crashing.org> From: Patrick Oppenlander Message-ID: <156a374f-1d3a-cb9a-49ab-93388bd6a3d2@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:28:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170214144913.GT21840@gate.crashing.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-02/txt/msg00061.txt.bz2 On 15/02/17 01:49, Segher Boessenkool wrote: >>> It is also used in many PPC based microcontrollers, which are used in >>> the automotive industry and other places where you need highly reliable >>> and robust but powerful microcontrollers. However, gcc support for >>> these has traditionally been poor - there is little support for the >>> variety of cores and configurations available from Freescale/NXP. I >>> believe there is a chicken-and-egg situation here - few people use gcc >>> with these devices because there is poorer device support compared to >>> Freescale CodeWarrior or Green Hills, and there is little incentive for >>> gcc developers (such as the CodeSourcery or IBM PPC folks) to support >>> devices in gcc if no one uses that combination. >> >> Yes, we use GCC also one these chips, however, due to the lack of VLE >> support the situation is even worse. Looks like support for the non-IBM >> PowerPC is dead in GCC. I can understand this pretty well. > > It's not true though; we still support all those cores, just not the > VLE extension (we never have), and I propose GCC 7 will drop the SPE > extension as well -- not all other support we have for those cores. > They will have to use soft float, alas. Will the SPFP APU still be supported? Kind regards, Patrick