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From: Rainer Orth <ro@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU>
Cc: Ben Elliston <bje@wasabisystems.com>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sources.redhat.com,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com, rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: flag day for Solaris portions of config.{guess,sub}
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:15:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16317.24525.761478.237535@xayide.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ptfm7e7k.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu>

Paul Eggert writes:

> Rainer Orth <ro@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> writes:
> 
> > A continued burden which removes clarity from those scripts,
> 
> Using -sunos5* would not remove clarity from scripts, as it's just as
> clear as -solaris2*.  And it would not be a continued burden, as it's

My comment was referring to the -solaris2.x/-solaris[789]/-solaris<n>
variant, where we are left without a catch-all pattern for Solaris 2.
-sunos5* is certainly ok in this respect, but also a massive change over
dozens or hundreds of packages for no real gain.

> It is a tradeoff between maintainer convenience and newbie convenience.
> The easiest thing for maintainers is to do nothing, and continue to
> confuse novices in this minor way.  (After all, we've invented our own
> nonstandard jargon that works for us, and if it confuses novices then
> that's their problem.  :-)

Exactly: apart from the minor confusion (which is already there by the
SunOS 5 vs. Solaris 2 vs. Solaris 7/8/9/10 mess), no harm is done by
sticking to the established convention of using solaris2* instead of
sunos5*.  The bad choice to use solaris2* instead of sunos5* (where Sun had
already created lots of confusion by re-branding SunOS 4.1.1B to Solaris
1.0) as config.guess output had been made early in the history of Solaris 2, 
and this whole discussion clearly suggest that we stick with that
(admittedly bad) choice since compatibility is considerably more important
than following marketing inventions.

	Rainer

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-21  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-20 12:25 Ben Elliston
2003-11-20 14:03 ` Ben Elliston
2003-11-20 14:12 ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-20 18:29 ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 20:31   ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-20 20:35     ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 20:50       ` Albert Chin-A-Young
2003-11-20 21:32       ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-20 21:44         ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-21  0:57           ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-21  1:15             ` Rainer Orth [this message]
2003-11-23 12:51             ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-23 23:40               ` Branko Čibej
2003-11-24  8:17                 ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-24  8:28                   ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-24 12:08                     ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-24 14:35                       ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-24 21:54                         ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-25 10:47                           ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-25 23:12                             ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-26  6:05                               ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-26 12:05                               ` Ben Elliston
2003-11-27  1:58                                 ` Russ Allbery
2003-11-25 10:07                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-26  3:49                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-11-20 21:33     ` Eric Botcazou
2003-11-20 21:40       ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 23:32         ` Phil Edwards
2003-11-21 23:56 ` tm_gccmail
2003-11-22  0:01   ` Joe Buck
2003-11-27 18:55 ` Zack Weinberg
2003-11-29  1:42   ` Paul Eggert
2003-11-29  2:24     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-01 21:29       ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-01 22:09         ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-02 21:40           ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-02 21:45             ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-02 22:21               ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-03 17:22               ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-03 17:23                 ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-03 17:33                   ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-04  7:42                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-04  8:57                     ` Branko Čibej
2003-12-05 17:27                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-05 18:43                         ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05 18:53                           ` Joe Buck
2003-12-06 12:11                             ` Nix
2003-12-07 23:22                         ` Branko Čibej
2003-12-04 10:16                     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 11:16                       ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-04 21:41                         ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-04 22:07                           ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 23:04                           ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-04 23:11                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-04 23:27                             ` Joe Buck
2003-12-04 23:38                               ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-04 23:41                                 ` Ben Elliston
2003-12-04 23:42                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05 11:46                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-06  7:05                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-06 20:41                                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-06 21:56                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-07  9:25                                             ` Arnaud Charlet
2003-12-07 15:26                                               ` Eric Botcazou
2003-12-07 19:25                                               ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-05  5:00                                   ` Russ Allbery
2003-12-05 12:37                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-08 13:29                             ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-08 22:44                               ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-08 23:48                                 ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-08 23:59                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-10  0:04                                   ` Paul Eggert
2003-12-12  5:30                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-12-12  7:19                                     ` Zack Weinberg
2003-12-12 21:27                                     ` Rainer Orth
2003-12-05 23:22                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-12-04 14:22                     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-11-20 21:55 bkorb
2003-11-20 23:24 ` Rainer Orth
2003-11-20 23:52   ` Bruce Korb
2003-12-02 22:58 Wolfgang Bangerth

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