From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21400 invoked by alias); 19 Jan 2004 16:24:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 21264 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2004 16:24:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sadr.equallogic.com) (66.155.203.134) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2004 16:24:18 -0000 Received: from sadr.equallogic.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sadr.equallogic.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0JGOH6c027783 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:24:18 -0500 Received: from deneb.dev.equallogic.com (deneb [172.16.1.99]) by sadr.equallogic.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0JGOHIg027778; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:24:17 -0500 Received: from PKONING.equallogic.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by deneb.dev.equallogic.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0JGOGJ21973; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:24:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16396.1201.530000.430277@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:24:00 -0000 From: Paul Koning To: coyote@coyotegulch.com Cc: gdr@integrable-solutions.net, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal X-SW-Source: 2004-01/txt/msg01298.txt.bz2 >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Robert Ladd writes: Scott> Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: >> I suggest you spend some time in the bugzilla database, triaging >> bugs and explaining people who say that the compiler segfaulted -- >> when compiling their programs, and you have determined that GCC >> was consuming huge memory -- that they are marginal. Until then, >> I guess we're just going through an empty discussion. Scott> Well, people can tell me I'm nuttier than a fruitcake, but Scott> here's a wild suggestion: Scott> Define a "lean-and-mean" build, perhaps focused on C, that Scott> reduces system requirements and focuses on compilation Scott> speed. One of GCC's key advantages is its support for "older" Scott> hardware. Scott> Such an approach might go a long way toward satisfying the Scott> various constituencies who want faster compiles on limited Scott> systems. It wouldn't satisfy me. C++ is just as important as C, and it is completely unreasonable to tell people that any host other than a year or two is "marginal". A point to keep in mind is that laptops make good hosts, but laptops are more memory-limited than desktops. paul