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From: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
To: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
Cc: Dave Korn <dave.korn@artimi.com>,
	"'Robert Dewar'" <dewar@adacore.com>,
	"'Gabriel Dos Reis'" <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>,
	"'Andrew Pinski'" <pinskia@physics.uc.edu>,
	"'gcc mailing list'" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: signed is undefined and has been since 1992 (in GCC)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17089.26325.169281.749633@zapata.pink> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050628145148.GD52889@dspnet.fr.eu.org>

Olivier Galibert writes:
 > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:39:38PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote:
 > > ----Original Message----
 > > >From: Olivier Galibert
 > > >Sent: 28 June 2005 15:25
 > > 
 > > > In particular, a very large number of C and C++ programs are written
 > > > with the assumptions:
 > > 
 > >   This is a bad line of reasoning in general.  There is a vast amount of bad
 > > software in the world, some blatantly buggy, some subtly-incorrect.  To
 > > attempt to fix it all in the compiler rather than the source seems a bit
 > > bass-ackwards to me!
 > 
 > Welcome to the real world.  Useful compilers are not an exercise in
 > theorical computing, especially for languages like C or C++.

This is childish and insulting.

Please try to have a little more respect for the people you're dealing
with -- who live and work in the real world as much as you do.  

The standard of discourse on this list has been dropping of late, and
we'd all get a lot more done if we'd learn to take a deep breath
before posting.  Try to remember this is a technical discussion, not
an argument in a bar.

Andrew.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-28 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-28  4:08 Andrew Pinski
2005-06-28  4:20 ` Michael Veksler
2005-06-28  9:49   ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28  4:34 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28  4:50   ` Andrew Pinski
2005-06-28  5:13     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28  5:34       ` Andrew Pinski
2005-06-28  6:01         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28  9:18           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 11:50             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 12:07               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 12:33                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 12:57                   ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 13:19                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 22:58                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-28 23:53                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-29  0:27                           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-29  0:43                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-29  0:48                               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-29  1:14                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-29  1:21                                   ` Diego Novillo
2005-06-29  2:19                                     ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-06-29  3:13                                       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2005-06-28 14:24                     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 14:28                       ` Jonathan Wilson
2005-06-28 14:42                         ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 14:39                       ` Dave Korn
2005-06-28 14:52                         ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 15:01                           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 15:04                           ` Andrew Haley [this message]
2005-06-28 17:18                             ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 17:36                               ` Dave Korn
2005-06-28 18:02                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 18:36                                   ` Dave Korn
2005-06-28 18:56                                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 19:10                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 19:13                                       ` Andrew Pinski
2005-06-28 19:20                                         ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 21:48                                           ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 19:25                                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 19:32                                           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 19:48                                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 20:37                                               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 20:58                                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 21:57                                                   ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 21:44                                             ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 21:50                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 21:59                                               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 18:52                                   ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 19:17                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 19:21                                       ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 20:18                                         ` Paul Koning
2005-06-28 20:24                                           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 21:41                                             ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 21:53                                         ` Michael Veksler
2005-06-28 23:05                                           ` Michael Veksler
2005-07-02 17:15                                         ` Florian Weimer
2005-07-02 18:59                                           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-07-02 23:20                                             ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-03  0:07                                               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-07-03  9:49                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-02 23:12                                           ` Nicholas Nethercote
2005-07-02 23:20                                           ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-03  0:13                                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-07-03  9:54                                               ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-03 10:02                                                 ` Florian Weimer
2005-07-03 10:10                                                   ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-03 12:01                                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-07-14  7:21                                           ` Marc Espie
2005-07-02 17:06                                 ` Florian Weimer
2005-06-28 17:51                               ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 18:21                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 18:53                                   ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 18:28                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 18:38                                   ` Dave Korn
2005-06-28 18:50                               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 19:02                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 19:17                                   ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 19:43                                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 20:31                                       ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 20:51                                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 20:59                                           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 21:20                                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 21:27                                               ` Paul Koning
2005-06-28 21:39                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-06-28 21:35                                               ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 22:09                                     ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-06-28 22:16                                       ` Falk Hueffner
2005-06-29  6:59                                         ` Eric Botcazou
2005-06-28 22:19                                       ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 16:42                         ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 17:10                           ` Dave Korn
2005-06-28 17:21                             ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 22:41                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-28 14:47                       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 16:38                     ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 21:59                     ` Mike Stump
2005-06-28 13:47                   ` Gabriel Paubert
2005-06-28 13:52                     ` Andrew Pinski
2005-06-28 14:33                     ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 12:08               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-28 12:34                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28  7:25         ` Michael Veksler
2005-06-28 16:32           ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 16:56             ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 17:03             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 17:34               ` Joe Buck
2005-06-28 18:09                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 17:35               ` Diego Novillo
2005-06-28  6:55       ` Steven Bosscher
2005-06-28  7:20         ` Michael Veksler
2005-06-28  7:39           ` Falk Hueffner
2005-06-28 12:08             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 12:01         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-06-28 16:59 Morten Welinder
2005-06-28 17:23 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-28 18:44 ` Michael Veksler
2005-06-28 17:41 Paul Schlie
     [not found] <2382433.1119938227627.JavaMail.root@dtm1eusosrv72.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net>
2005-06-28 19:44 ` Toon Moene

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