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From: Paul Koning <pkoning@equallogic.com>
To: schlie@comcast.net
Cc: dewar@adacore.com, mattheww@chiark.greenend.org.uk, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Where does the C standard describe overflow of signed integers?
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:35:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17110.52392.697364.523433@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BEFC351B.AD1A%schlie@comcast.net>

>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Schlie <schlie@comcast.net> writes:

 >> From: Robert Dewar <dewar@adacore.com>
 >>> Paul Schlie wrote:
 >>>> What about optimising x*2/2 to x?
 >>> Given that "C" requires the above be evaluated as (x*2)/2, as the
 >>> language specifies that the syntax defines the precedence of the
 >>> operations, and that no optimization should alter the behavior as
 >>> specified by the program; I'd say that unless it was known that
 >>> the value range of x was between 0 and INT_MAX, the optimization
 >>> is simply invalid.
 >> the optimization is indeed valid
 >> 
 >> optimizations may most certainly alter behavior of undefined
 >> code. think about uninitialized local variables.

 Paul> I don't contest that it may, I simply don't believe it should.

In that case you may want to stick with -O0.  There are *lots* of
things GCC does that alter undefined cases.  How about the undefined
behavior when aliasing rules are violated?  Would you want to make
-fno-strict-aliasing be the only supported setting?

     paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-14 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-14 19:09 Paul Schlie
2005-07-14 19:13 ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-14 19:28   ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-14 19:33     ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-14 20:13       ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-15 13:20         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-15 13:33           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-15 14:31           ` Dave Korn
2005-07-16 12:04             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-16 14:26               ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-15 15:03           ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-16 12:12             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-14 20:35     ` Paul Koning [this message]
2005-07-14 21:58       ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-15  7:04         ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-14  1:10 Paul Schlie
2005-07-14  1:59 ` Robert Dewar
2005-07-14  5:28   ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-14 17:57 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2005-07-14 18:36   ` Paul Koning
2005-07-11 14:58 Nicholas Nethercote
2005-07-11 15:07 ` Dave Korn
2005-07-11 16:07   ` Nicholas Nethercote
2005-07-11 17:04     ` Dave Korn
2005-07-11 15:15 ` Nathan Sidwell
2005-07-11 15:23   ` Dave Korn
2005-07-12 23:13 ` Michael Meissner

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