* Re: STL[quick questions]
@ 1998-12-07 14:02 Mike Stump
1998-12-07 14:36 ` Joe Buck
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike Stump @ 1998-12-07 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jbuck; +Cc: egcs
> From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
> To: imarkov@math.ucla.edu (Igor Markov)
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 18:47:36 PST
> The reason for not switching for 1.1 was bad timing, and 1.1.1 was
> supposed to be binary compatible so we didn't switch.
I suspect that we'll break binary compatibility with the newer STL.
If we do, then turning on all the abi breaking stuff for 1.2 would be
good, if the new code is ready in time.
Or are people more interested in maintaining what binary compatibility
we can between 1.1.1 and 1.2 (even if it isn' t complete
compatibility)?
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* Re: STL[quick questions]
1998-12-07 14:02 STL[quick questions] Mike Stump
@ 1998-12-07 14:36 ` Joe Buck
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joe Buck @ 1998-12-07 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Stump; +Cc: jbuck, egcs
> > From: Joe Buck <jbuck@Synopsys.COM>
> > To: imarkov@math.ucla.edu (Igor Markov)
> > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 18:47:36 PST
>
> > The reason for not switching for 1.1 was bad timing, and 1.1.1 was
> > supposed to be binary compatible so we didn't switch.
>
> I suspect that we'll break binary compatibility with the newer STL.
> If we do, then turning on all the abi breaking stuff for 1.2 would be
> good, if the new code is ready in time.
We still don't have a C++ library that lives in std (the libstdc++ version
3 is not ready). However, it would be possible to turn on -fsquangle and
the new class layout (that uses 0 bytes for empty classes in almost all
cases).
> Or are people more interested in maintaining what binary compatibility
> we can between 1.1.1 and 1.2 (even if it isn' t complete
> compatibility)?
I don't know. In practice, the new STL won't break most binary interfaces
because relatively functions depend on STL, and even for those that do,
many of the STL classes have not changed layout.
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* Re: STL[quick questions]
1998-12-04 14:23 Igor Markov
1998-12-04 18:48 ` Joe Buck
@ 1998-12-30 11:18 ` Gerald Pfeifer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 1998-12-30 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Igor Markov; +Cc: egcs
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Igor Markov wrote:
> A couple of quick questions that I couldn't answer by reading egcs FAQ
> (it looks very sketchy in general -- no top-down structure etc)
This FAQ is maintained by volunteers. If you have any concrete suggestions
resp. patches I'll be happy to discuss these with you resp. install it.
Actually I have been working to improve the FAQ since I assumed web page
maintainership and I'm planing a complete restructuring, but again: The
best way to improve things is by contributing yourself (as a couple of
others have done recently).
> The link to egcs-testrsults archives points nowhere
Which link? On which page have you spotted that?
Provided sufficient information, I'll immediately fix that.
Gerald
--
Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) Vienna University of Technology
pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/
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* Re: STL[quick questions]
1998-12-04 18:48 ` Joe Buck
@ 1998-12-04 19:02 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 1998-12-04 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Igor Markov; +Cc: Joe Buck, egcs
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Joe Buck wrote:
>> I was wondering if egcs distributoins are going to
>> have the latest available SGI STL? This would be very
>> convenient assuming testing will be done in advance.
> Last time we discussed this, we said we'd switch STL versions for 1.2.
The mainline (and thus all recent snapshots) have been using SGI STL
3.11 for three months now without major problems, as far as I can tell.
1998-09-02 Jason Merrill <jason@yorick.cygnus.com>
* algorithm alloc.h defalloc.h hash_map.h hash_set.h iterator
memory pthread_alloc pthread_alloc.h rope ropeimpl.h stl_algo.h
stl_algobase.h stl_alloc.h stl_bvector.h stl_config.h
stl_construct.h stl_deque.h stl_function.h stl_hash_fun.h
stl_hash_map.h stl_hash_set.h stl_hashtable.h stl_heap.h
stl_iterator.h stl_list.h stl_map.h stl_multimap.h stl_multiset.h
stl_numeric.h stl_pair.h stl_queue.h stl_raw_storage_iter.h
stl_relops.h stl_rope.h stl_set.h stl_slist.h stl_stack.h
stl_tempbuf.h stl_tree.h stl_uninitialized.h stl_vector.h
tempbuf.h type_traits.h: Update to SGI STL 3.11.
>> I see many posts about STL on the egcs list, but no
>> clear indication if, say, SGI STL 3.11 works with egcs-1.1.1
>> on Solaris2.6, Linux2 or Windows NT4.0
> As far as I know, it works, but you need to make sure you don't
> wind up mixing headers from the two versions.
Igor, if your really want to/have to use STL 3.11, using a current
snapshot should be reasonably stable on sparc-sun-solaris2.6 (I'm
using that for everyday work) and most probably also on Linux.
Gerald
--
Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) Vienna University of Technology
pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/
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* Re: STL[quick questions]
1998-12-04 14:23 Igor Markov
@ 1998-12-04 18:48 ` Joe Buck
1998-12-04 19:02 ` Gerald Pfeifer
1998-12-30 11:18 ` Gerald Pfeifer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joe Buck @ 1998-12-04 18:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Igor Markov; +Cc: egcs
> I was wondering if egcs distributoins are going to
> have the latest available SGI STL? This would be very
> convenient assuming testing will be done in advance.
Last time we discussed this, we said we'd switch STL versions for 1.2.
> I see many posts about STL on the egcs list, but no
> clear indication if, say, SGI STL 3.11 works with egcs-1.1.1
> on Solaris2.6, Linux2 or Windows NT4.0
As far as I know, it works, but you need to make sure you don't
wind up mixing headers from the two versions. The reason for not
switching for 1.1 was bad timing, and 1.1.1 was supposed to be
binary compatible so we didn't switch.
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* STL[quick questions]
@ 1998-12-04 14:23 Igor Markov
1998-12-04 18:48 ` Joe Buck
1998-12-30 11:18 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Igor Markov @ 1998-12-04 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: egcs
Hello,
A couple of quick questions that I couldn't answer by
reading egcs FAQ (it looks very sketchy in general -- no
top-down structure etc)
I was wondering if egcs distributoins are going to
have the latest available SGI STL? This would be very
convenient assuming testing will be done in advance.
I see many posts about STL on the egcs list, but no
clear indication if, say, SGI STL 3.11 works with egcs-1.1.1
on Solaris2.6, Linux2 or Windows NT4.0
The link to egcs-testrsults archives points nowhere,
but even if this is fixed, I'd prefer a simple compatibility
table accessible from http://egcs.cygnus.com
thanks,
--
Igor
P.S. Please cc: imarkov@ucla.edu
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