From: Sylvain Pion <Sylvain.Pion@sophia.inria.fr>
To: law@cygnus.com
Cc: egcs@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: /internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:43:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <19981217134318.C9897@rigel.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28398.913854887@hurl.cygnus.com>
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 05:34:47PM -0700, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
> [...] Though
> I believe in the case reassociating a series of multiplies we are safe.
>
> I challenge anyone to come up with a case where a reassociation of
> a * b * c * d produces different results than ((a * b) * c) * d.
If you want that, you'd better first _prove_ that it works in every case.
But you won't be able to do so because it's false.
It might be true when the following both conditions are met:
- no intermediate overflow/underflow appears (nor denormalized numbers).
- the rounding mode is set to nearest.
I'd be interested in reading the proof in this case (if it's true).
Case if you have an intermediate overflow is easy:
DBL_MAX * DLB_MAX * DBL_MIN gives you either Inf or DBL_MAX.
Case when rounding is set to +Infinity:
0.1 * 0.1 * -1.0 doesn't give you the same result, try it.
--
Sylvain
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1998-12-17 4:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-12-15 15:06 /internet tprince
1998-12-15 19:12 ` /internet Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-15 19:21 ` /internet Joe Buck
1998-12-15 19:37 ` /internet Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-16 7:58 ` /internet Tim Hollebeek
1998-12-16 8:41 ` /internet Joe Buck
1998-12-16 11:45 ` /internet Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-16 11:59 ` /internet Joe Buck
1998-12-16 13:19 ` /internet Chip Salzenberg
1998-12-16 16:20 ` /internet Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-16 17:42 ` /internet Joern Rennecke
1998-12-17 9:46 ` /internet Horst von Brand
1998-12-16 16:37 ` /internet Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-16 16:56 ` /internet Per Bothner
1998-12-17 20:20 ` /internet Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-16 17:52 ` /internet Joern Rennecke
1998-12-17 4:43 ` Sylvain Pion [this message]
1998-12-17 10:26 ` /internet Craig Burley
1998-12-15 23:08 ` /internet Matthias Urlichs
1998-12-16 9:33 ` /internet Craig Burley
1998-12-16 5:44 ` /internet Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-16 9:37 ` /internet Craig Burley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-12-16 12:34 /internet Geert Bosch
1998-12-16 13:02 ` /internet Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-16 16:25 ` /internet Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-04 17:41 /internet tprince
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