public inbox for gcc@gcc.gnu.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Brad Lucier <lucier@math.purdue.edu>
To: burley@gnu.org, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
Cc: lucier@math.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: FWD: FLOATING-POINT CONSISTENCY, -FFLOAT-STORE, AND X86
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:27:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199812171927.OAA03931@polya.math.purdue.edu> (raw)

I agree with Craig (I think ;-).

To get consistent, predictable, useable floating-point results, it is
absolutely necessary that spilled floating-point registers be stored in
memory in a format such that spilling and reading a value back into a
register does not change one bit (in the technical sense) of the number.
If that means spilling FP registers to 80 bit temporaries aligned to
128-bit (or 64bit) boundaries, then so be it.

I say this as someone who has built highly accurate elementary function
routine libraries, together with test libraries for those routines, built
test libraries for last-bit accuracy floating-point IO routines, etc.
The programmer needs absolute control over the precision and range of
all results, including intermediate results, for him/her to be successful
at things like this.

Brad Lucier      lucier@math.purdue.edu

             reply	other threads:[~1998-12-17 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-12-17 11:27 Brad Lucier [this message]
1998-12-17 14:51 ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-19  0:17   ` Craig Burley
1998-12-19  6:42     ` Emil Hallin
1998-12-19 14:26       ` Dave Love
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-12-17 14:38 Toon Moene
1998-12-17 15:30 ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-18  1:54   ` Toon Moene
1998-12-18  3:05     ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-18  9:01       ` Toon Moene
1998-12-18 15:59       ` Richard Henderson
1998-12-18 13:26   ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-18 12:50 ` Dave Love
1998-12-17 14:37 tprince
1998-12-17 15:15 ` Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-16 13:52 Toon Moene
1998-12-17 10:06 ` Craig Burley
1998-12-17 12:16   ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-19  0:29     ` Craig Burley
1998-12-17 11:20 ` Dave Love
1998-12-15 12:24 Toon Moene
1998-12-15 12:55 ` Joe Buck
1998-12-15 15:05 ` Edward Jason Riedy
1998-12-16 10:05 ` Craig Burley
1998-12-15 12:10 Geert Bosch
1998-12-15 13:09 ` Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-15  1:45 Geert Bosch
1998-12-15  3:34 ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-16 10:36   ` Craig Burley
1998-12-16 12:47     ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-17 10:22       ` Craig Burley
1998-12-17 14:54         ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-19  0:27           ` Craig Burley
1998-12-19  5:06             ` Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-15  6:43 ` Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-16 10:14   ` Craig Burley
1998-12-15  9:29 ` Joe Buck
1998-12-15 10:14   ` Jeffrey A Law
1998-12-16  8:32     ` Sylvain Pion
1998-12-16  9:20       ` Craig Burley
1998-12-13 18:23 Stephen L Moshier
1998-12-14  1:52 ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-14 14:56   ` Edward Jason Riedy
1998-12-14 17:20     ` Joe Buck
1998-12-14 18:51       ` Edward Jason Riedy
1998-12-14 21:54         ` Craig Burley
1998-12-15 14:31           ` Edward Jason Riedy
1998-12-15 17:11         ` Jamie Lokier
1998-12-16  0:26           ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-16  9:33             ` Craig Burley
1998-12-16 12:18               ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-16  9:38           ` Craig Burley
1998-12-16 12:25           ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-16 12:50             ` Tim Hollebeek
1998-12-16 13:04               ` Harvey J. Stein
1998-12-16 14:01               ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-17 11:26                 ` Dave Love
1998-12-17 15:06                   ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-18 12:50                     ` Dave Love
1998-12-19 14:09                       ` Marc Lehmann
1998-12-20 11:28                         ` Dave Love
1998-12-20 11:24               ` Dave Love
1998-12-16 23:11           ` Joern Rennecke
1998-12-17  6:07             ` Jamie Lokier
1998-12-14 22:54       ` Craig Burley

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=199812171927.OAA03931@polya.math.purdue.edu \
    --to=lucier@math.purdue.edu \
    --cc=burley@gnu.org \
    --cc=egcs@egcs.cygnus.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).