From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mark@codesourcery.com To: torvalds@transmeta.com Cc: rth@cygnus.com, tim@wagner.Princeton.EDU, craig@jcb-sc.com, davem@redhat.com, chip@perlsupport.com, egcs@egcs.cygnus.com Subject: Re: Linux and aliasing? Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:43:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990607092219W.mitchell@codesourcery.com> References: <19990606174538V.mitchell@codesourcery.com> X-SW-Source: 1999-06n/msg00260.html Message-ID: <19990630154300.u7vGQR4Zalu9MI_mfd6LiUKN2pbgZlG6Q_-vb2DKXLo@z> >>>>> "Linus" == Linus Torvalds writes: Linus> My proposal might mean that fewer people will use the Linus> "-fno-strict-alias" switch, because they won't have to. I Linus> don't think you realize how most professional software Linus> projects work. The "professional" part means that people Linus> are under a deadline and don't really care about your Linus> standards conformance, they want things to WORK. Please don't make these kinds of statements. They're not becoming. I am a professional developer, paid for my work. Some of that work is on free software, some is not. Before my current job, I worked as a technical lead in midsized software corporation, where I, and my team, were all professional developers. I brought two or three products to release, and I'm well aware of the pressures, both technical and otherwise, that accompany such a project. Linus> Andy Kleen already said he was playing with patches that Linus> implemented it, but just ignore that, like you ignore all Linus> the other arguments I've presented. Sorry, I did not ignore Andy. Indeed, I responded to him, both personally and to the list. I discussed his/your proposal with him, and pointed out techincal flaws both in your proposal, and in the obvious way of implementing it. (I haven't seen Andy's patches, so I don't know what approach he took; all I said was why the obvious one won't work.) -- Mark Mitchell mark@codesourcery.com CodeSourcery, LLC http://www.codesourcery.com