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From: Marc Espie <espie@quatramaran.ens.fr>
To: mrs@wrs.com
Cc: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.0
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199909162035.WAA19219@quatramaran.ens.fr> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990930180200.klVFR_QxbCgeDqCh7AHwPo8lIqMZ8N_XhSO3P1xmRtA@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199909162013.NAA10276@kankakee.wrs.com>

In article < 199909162013.NAA10276@kankakee.wrs.com > you write:
>You are in the exact same case.  You want to put things that are only
>relevant to your one build, but screw all the other folks in the world.

I don't want to screw anybody else.
I want to make sure stuff works, possibly both ways.

>gcc doesn't cater to people like you.  It caters to all the other
>folks that want to install a new compiler in a non-conflicting way on
>their system.
>
>Once you readjust your philosophy around to match the gcc philosophy,
>you will see why what law says is true.
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:41:15 +0200
>> From: Marc Espie <espie@quatramaran.ens.fr>
>
>> I concur that, if the end user want to fiddle with a newer gcc snapshot,
>> USER_H is in the way.
>
>See, this is wrong.  Use the phrase, if the end user wants to fiddle
>with a newer gcc snapshot, everything will always just work.  If the
>distribution packager wants to build up a distribution, they will have
>to fiddle with USER_H...

Sigh. I wonder if I speak martian of something sometimes...
See, this is exactly what I mean.
I do understand that the end user  may want to install a newer compiler
on an older OpenBSD.  I have absolutely no problem with this.
*of course* he shouldn't get fucked by whatever we want to do with the
compiler.

In fact, one point of my getting involved with gcc was to make sure
what we had in tree matches *precisely* the current development tree,
apart from a few, well-documented patches *and* making the patches 
available, so that Joe User gets a choice.

What I mean is that we want to keep upgrading our system headers.
We want them to work, we want the current system to match what gcc
needs.

  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-30 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-09-16 13:13 Mike Stump
1999-09-16 13:36 ` Marc Espie [this message]
1999-09-16 13:54   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02   ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Mike Stump
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-09-20 13:43 Mike Stump
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Mike Stump
1999-09-16 12:42 Mike Stump
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Mike Stump
1999-09-14 19:32 Wes Morgan
1999-09-14 20:08 ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-15  2:00   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02   ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-14 22:34 ` Loren James Rittle
1999-09-14 23:00   ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-14 23:14     ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  0:25       ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15  0:56         ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  1:21           ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-15  1:40             ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  2:23               ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-15  3:11                 ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  3:52                   ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-30 18:02                   ` David O'Brien
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-20  3:58               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` David O'Brien
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-30 18:02           ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  1:17         ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  9:23           ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15 10:24             ` David O'Brien
1999-09-16 14:48               ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-30 18:02               ` David O'Brien
1999-09-20  4:20             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20  4:34           ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-20  9:26             ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20  9:55               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-20 10:17                 ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20 10:38                   ` Richard Earnshaw
1999-09-20 11:02                     ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20 11:39                     ` Horst von Brand
1999-09-20 11:49                       ` Chris G. Demetriou
1999-09-30 18:02                         ` Chris G. Demetriou
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Horst von Brand
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Richard Earnshaw
1999-09-23  8:51                   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                   ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02           ` David O'Brien
1999-09-30 18:02         ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15  2:00       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-15  2:25         ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  2:33           ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02           ` David O'Brien
     [not found]         ` <37DFAD27.3E6A25E3@datadesign.com>
     [not found]           ` <199909152042.PAA29374@latour.rsch.comm.mot.com>
1999-09-15 14:26             ` Bruce Korb
1999-09-15 17:10               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-16  1:46                 ` Marc Espie
1999-09-16  6:57                   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-16  7:41                     ` Marc Espie
1999-09-16  7:55                       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                   ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` Bruce Korb
1999-09-30 18:02         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02       ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  1:59     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15  7:42   ` Wes Morgan
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Wes Morgan
1999-09-30 18:02   ` Loren James Rittle
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Wes Morgan

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