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From: Jeffrey A Law <law@cygnus.com>
To: ddsinc09@ix.netcom.com
Cc: rittle@rsch.comm.mot.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.0
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14810.937440488@upchuck.cygnus.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990930180200.v5b2LVrRiayCjtMpurdFRDEdJfTzz7ThAonkpTNRiB0@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37E00F41.AF49518@datadesign.com>

  In message < 37E00F41.AF49518@datadesign.com >you write:
  > First off, I am strongly in the camp that says the fewer headers
  > that get secreted off some place the better.  In other words,
  > if the standard BSD compiler is GCC, then the standard BSD headers
  > should be compatible with it.
But, unfortunately, header requirements change over time.  This is precisely
the problem we have had with the *BSD* systems over the years.

Back in 1991 or so I put in a change which made GCC avoid installing its 
own internal header files for "Net-2" systems (upon which all the *BSD variants
are derived.

That turned out to be a huge, unbelievably stupid, thing to do.  Why?  Because
when we needed to provide a magic symbol (I believe in stddef.h) to ensure
that C++ adhered to the proper definition of NULL the *BSD systems did not
get that definition.

Or another example would be the need to massage math.h because it had
"struct exception" in it and "exception" became a reserved word for C++.
 


  > >From the perspective that the future will be compatible,
That is not an assumption we can safely make because the requirements do
change over time and GCC needs to continue to work when those requirements
change.

  > The most straght forward answer is:  do that which has the smallest
  > impact while still being certain to not break other implementations.
I certainly agree with this.  However, it has to include installation of the
GCC header files, now and in the future.

jeff


  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-30 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-09-14 19:32 Wes Morgan
1999-09-14 20:08 ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-15  2:00   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02   ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-14 22:34 ` Loren James Rittle
1999-09-14 23:00   ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-14 23:14     ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  0:25       ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15  0:56         ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  1:21           ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-15  1:40             ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  2:23               ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-15  3:11                 ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  3:52                   ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-30 18:02                   ` David O'Brien
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-20  3:58               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` David O'Brien
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Andreas Schwab
1999-09-30 18:02           ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  1:17         ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  9:23           ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15 10:24             ` David O'Brien
1999-09-16 14:48               ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Richard Henderson
1999-09-30 18:02               ` David O'Brien
1999-09-20  4:20             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-21  6:33               ` The USER_H issue Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02               ` FreeBSD 4.0 Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20  4:34           ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-20  9:26             ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20  9:55               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-20 10:17                 ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20 10:38                   ` Richard Earnshaw
1999-09-20 11:02                     ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-20 11:39                     ` Horst von Brand
1999-09-20 11:49                       ` Chris G. Demetriou
1999-09-30 18:02                         ` Chris G. Demetriou
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Horst von Brand
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Richard Earnshaw
1999-09-23  8:51                   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-23  9:13                     ` Pending Projects Bruce Korb
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Bruce Korb
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` FreeBSD 4.0 Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                   ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02           ` David O'Brien
1999-09-30 18:02         ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15  2:00       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-15  2:25         ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  2:33           ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02           ` David O'Brien
     [not found]         ` <37DFAD27.3E6A25E3@datadesign.com>
     [not found]           ` <199909152042.PAA29374@latour.rsch.comm.mot.com>
1999-09-15 14:26             ` Bruce Korb
1999-09-15 17:10               ` Jeffrey A Law [this message]
1999-09-16  1:46                 ` Marc Espie
1999-09-16  6:57                   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-16  7:41                     ` Marc Espie
1999-09-16  7:55                       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                       ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02                     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02                   ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02               ` Bruce Korb
1999-09-30 18:02         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02       ` David O'Brien
1999-09-15  1:59     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Zack Weinberg
1999-09-15  7:42   ` Wes Morgan
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Wes Morgan
1999-09-30 18:02   ` Loren James Rittle
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Wes Morgan
1999-09-16 12:42 Mike Stump
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Mike Stump
1999-09-16 13:13 Mike Stump
1999-09-16 13:36 ` Marc Espie
1999-09-16 13:54   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-09-30 18:02   ` Marc Espie
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Mike Stump
1999-09-20 13:43 Mike Stump
1999-09-30 18:02 ` Mike Stump
2000-06-08 12:42 Conerned about lack of detail in ChangeLog/commit messges David O'Brien
2000-06-08 15:18 ` Martin v. Loewis
2000-06-09  8:30 ` David Edelsohn
2000-06-09  8:51   ` David O'Brien
2000-06-09  9:13     ` Nick Burrett
2000-06-09  9:21       ` David O'Brien
2000-06-11  6:38       ` Marc Espie
2001-05-02 18:21 [PATCH] rs6000.c ELF bits inclusion David O'Brien
2001-05-02 20:07 ` David Edelsohn
2001-05-02 20:32   ` David O'Brien
2001-05-02 20:52     ` David Edelsohn
2001-05-03  0:39       ` David O'Brien
2001-05-03 13:17 ` David O'Brien
2001-05-03 16:04   ` David Edelsohn
2001-05-03 19:11     ` David O'Brien

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