From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 41442 invoked by alias); 27 Feb 2019 19:26:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 41433 invoked by uid 89); 27 Feb 2019 19:26:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=H*f:sk:10B8005, Hx-languages-length:1443, Flash, H*f:sk:da13f67 X-HELO: smtp.hosts.co.uk Received: from smtp.hosts.co.uk (HELO smtp.hosts.co.uk) (85.233.160.19) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:26:23 +0000 Received: from [85.211.248.195] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp.hosts.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1gz4qT-0002kW-5F; Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:26:21 +0000 From: Simon Wright Message-Id: <1A1950D7-2119-466A-96E7-99C541CD5B70@pushface.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: License compliance on updating gcc runtime libraries Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:26:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20190227183725.D694833CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> Cc: zlynx@acm.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org To: Richard Kenner References: <20190227124135.E694D33CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> <10B80055-C31C-4C46-84E9-0A8747CF4D41@pushface.org> <20190227132003.D949D33CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> <20190227183725.D694833CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2019-02/txt/msg00167.txt.bz2 On 27 Feb 2019, at 18:37, Richard Kenner wrote: >=20 > 1) Whether executing a program is considered making a copy under > copyright law. I had a look through some of the published judgements, and it's clear that = in the US at least copying into RAM (for whatever purpose, and provided the= copy has more than fleeting duration) counts as copying for copyright purp= oses. I can't help feeling (however useless feelings are in the face of the 9th C= ircuit) that a software publisher should be able to rely on other methods t= o retain control of their proprietary software. After all, ARM-based MCUs a= re capable of executing code directly from Flash, with no copying at all.