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From: Marc Espie <espie@quatramaran.ens.fr>
To: zack@wolery.cumb.org
Cc: egcs@egcs.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [patch] beginnings of the macro rewrite
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200004230313.FAA02470@quatramaran.ens.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000422103307.C8273@wolery.cumb.org>

In article < 20000422103307.C8273@wolery.cumb.org > you write:
>On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 04:15:54PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote:
>> Stan Shebs <shebs@apple.com> said on gcc-patches:
>> > Zack Weinberg wrote:
>> > > IMPORTANT: This drops support for traditional macros.  I will put it
>> > > back if people complain loudly enough.  If no one cares then I will
>> > > probably drop -traditional entirely, sometime next week.
>> > > -Wtraditional still works.
>> 
>> > It might not get too much reaction on this list, but I suggest
>> > you make this checkin anonymously, so the lynch mob of users
>> > won't be able to come find you. 1/2 :-)
>> > 
>> > -traditional will be important to support in GCC for at least
>> > another 10 years, possibly longer, depending on the longevity
>> > of various old code bases.
[...]

>- comments are replaced by nothing _after_ arguments are substituted,
>  which means /**/ can be used to paste tokens.

I'm somewhat behind on current gcc discussion, but I agree 110% with
Stan there.

*If* you drop traditional macro support from cpplib, then that means
that a whole host of vendors will have to resort to, either keep an older
version of GNU cpp around (which you probably don't want, thanks to the
improvements you've done), or switch *definitively* to a smaller, 
no-thrills-but-no-surprise-either cpp.

This is probably not quite the effect you're looking for...

Personally, I don't care much for traditional cpp, but most OSes still have
dark corners, where code that needs it lurks... Granted, postponing the
rewrite forever is not a good idea, but we would rather make the decision 
by ourselves than having it forced down our collective throats.

  reply	other threads:[~2000-04-22 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3900A36C.18989ED4@apple.com>
2000-04-21 17:17 ` Horst von Brand
2000-04-22 10:33   ` Zack Weinberg
2000-04-22 20:13     ` Marc Espie [this message]
2000-04-22 20:20     ` Neil Booth
2000-04-24  8:57     ` Michael Meissner
2000-04-24 17:54       ` Russ Allbery
2000-04-27 15:54     ` Philipp Thomas
2000-04-27 17:32       ` Joe Buck
2000-04-24 23:38   ` Martin Kahlert
2000-04-23  4:04 Richard Kenner
2002-07-04  9:55 C++ binary compatibility between GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.2? Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-04 10:23 ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 14:17 ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:22   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-05 14:28     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:53       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:08         ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  5:34           ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:40             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  6:40               ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-07-06  7:20                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:53                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  8:54                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06 11:04                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-07-06  7:42                 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:08                   ` Jeff Law
2002-07-06 11:10                     ` Gwenole Beauchesne
2002-07-06  6:19         ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 14:46   ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:02     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  6:28       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2002-07-05 15:02     ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 15:12       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:20         ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 16:11           ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 16:12             ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-05 16:35               ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 22:18               ` Geoff Keating
2002-07-07 23:14               ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  4:56     ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:44       ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-07-06  7:35         ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:44         ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 22:35 ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-06  5:40 ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-07-06  6:40   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:49     ` Andreas Jaeger

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