public inbox for gcc@gcc.gnu.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar)
To: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu, minyard@acm.org
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, guerby@acm.org
Subject: Re: Why not gnat Ada in gcc?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001013025823.8CC1B34D87@nile.gnat.com> (raw)

<<I don't agree with this.  After programming for 10 years in C, and
learning both Ada and C++, I found Ada easy to learn and not very
complex.  Certainly much less complex than C++.  Don't re-enforce the
FUD.
>>

YOu missed the point entirely, Richard was saying that the language is
very complex to implement, not to use!

Indeed, it is fair to compare it to C++ in this respect (I do not think
it is right to say that it is less complex than C++ from an implementation
point of view, I would say it is comparable in terms of the front end,
comparable in terms of the back end, and Ada is far more complex to
implement at runtime, especially if you include all the annexes.

Note that in practice there is not a huge number of people who make
subtle changes to the g++ front end.

Our experience is that we have had quite a few contributions over the
years from third parties, almost all in the tools and runtime, almost
none in the front end, and none at all in the complex parts of the
front end.

             reply	other threads:[~2000-10-12 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-12 19:59 Robert Dewar [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-05  8:24 Robert Dewar
2000-11-05  8:32 ` Arnaud Charlet
2000-11-05  8:53 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-05  9:24   ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-12  1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-12  4:59   ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-11-13 23:21     ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-04  9:04 Robert Dewar
2000-11-04 12:05 ` Arnaud Charlet
2000-11-03 20:46 Robert Dewar
2000-11-05  7:49 ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-02 18:32 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 18:21 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 13:22 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02 13:02 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02 13:18 ` John P. Pietrzak
2000-11-02  8:19 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  8:08 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02  7:47 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  7:40 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  8:28 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02  7:37 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  7:42 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02  7:31 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02  5:15 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02  7:58 ` John P. Pietrzak
2000-11-02  5:13 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  7:25 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02  4:56 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02  4:52 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02  7:28 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02  4:41 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  4:40 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 10:46 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-02  4:36 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  4:35 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 22:24 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 22:16 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:38 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:36 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:29 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:28 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 21:12 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:10 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:01 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:48 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 20:39 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:08 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:35 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 21:03 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:34 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:32 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:59 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:28 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  1:09 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-01 20:27 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:26 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:17 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 20:10 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 20:05 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:19 ` Daniel Berlin
2000-11-01 20:02 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:01 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:13 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:00 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:58 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:17 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02  1:17 ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-01 19:54 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:44 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:47 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:13 ` Stan Shebs
2000-11-01 19:43 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:38 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:42 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 19:31 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:40 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:53 ` Stan Shebs
2000-11-01 21:30 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:23 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:20 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02  0:20 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2000-11-01 19:18 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:08 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 18:58 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:06 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-03 11:50   ` Toon Moene
2000-11-02 14:09 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-03 13:40   ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-01 18:53 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2000-11-01 19:20 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02  1:07   ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-01 19:38 ` Stan Shebs
2000-11-01 20:03   ` Daniel Berlin
     [not found] ` <mailpost.973133936.11624@postal.sibyte.com>
     [not found]   ` <5tzojjysyg.fsf@highland.sibyte.com>
     [not found]     ` <mailpost.973134665.11835@postal.sibyte.com>
2000-11-01 19:46       ` Chris G. Demetriou
2000-11-02  0:48 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-01 18:51 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:26 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:49 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 18:23 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:47 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 18:11 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:09 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:22 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 17:58 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:07 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 17:39 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 17:51 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-01 18:09 ` David Starner
2000-11-01 18:21   ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02 15:03     ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-03  8:41       ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-04  8:53         ` Richard Stallman
2000-10-14 11:40 Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 11:36 Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 11:35 Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 14:03 ` Corey Minyard
2000-10-13 15:12 Richard Kenner
2000-10-14  3:17 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-01 15:54   ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-13  9:17 Robert Dewar
2000-10-12 23:52 Mike Stump
2000-10-13  6:03 ` David O'Brien
2000-10-12 20:09 Richard Kenner
2000-10-12  4:25 Richard Kenner
2000-10-13 14:50 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12  4:21 Richard Kenner
2000-10-13 15:04 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12  4:16 Robert Dewar
2000-10-11 17:04 Richard Kenner
2000-10-12  0:15 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12 13:47   ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-12 19:54 ` Corey Minyard
2000-10-01  8:35 Robert Dewar
2000-10-10 20:04 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-11 12:37   ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-12  0:15     ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12 15:40       ` Richard Stallman
2000-10-13  8:46         ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-14 11:27     ` Hartmut Schirmer
2000-10-14 12:21       ` Laurent Guerby
2000-09-25 17:28 Robert Dewar
2000-09-26 12:56 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-09-18 13:12 Richard Kenner
2000-09-18 15:38 ` Stan Shebs
2000-09-18 23:02   ` jfm2
2000-09-18  9:49 Richard Kenner
2000-09-18 13:25 ` Geoff Keating
2000-09-18  9:45 William Gacquer
2000-09-18  9:52 ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-09-18  9:32 Richard Kenner
2000-09-18  8:23 Gene Montgomery
2000-09-18  9:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-09-18 13:07 ` reedkotler

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20001013025823.8CC1B34D87@nile.gnat.com \
    --to=dewar@gnat.com \
    --cc=gcc@gcc.gnu.org \
    --cc=guerby@acm.org \
    --cc=kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu \
    --cc=minyard@acm.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).