From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar)
To: dewar@gnat.com, law@redhat.com
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu, rms@gnu.org, rth@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Why not gnat Ada in gcc?
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:58:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20001102035841.1C5CB34D82@nile.gnat.com> (raw)
<<And that's precisely the procedure you would use if you did a merge from
the external (potentially unstable) tree into your internal tree. Those
tests will likely find problems, you would fix them and submit the fixes
to the net sources.
>>
But it is VERY rare for regressions to occur on nightly runs, I would
say that 90% of the time the nightly builds are completely clean and
run the entire regression suites completely. I cannot believe that
this is true of the current gcc open tree (unless the test suites
are very weak indeed).
<<Right. THe problem is strictly your problem as a business, it is not a
problem for the GNU project. Thus, you should confine that problem to your
own internal sources and not force it on the official GNU sources.
>>
No one is forcing anything on anyone! Indeed if anything it seems like
Jeff is trying to force some unworkable model here, although it is a little
hard to follow, since in practice, I think the situation with GNAT will
be quite similar to that of gcc, avoiding hopefully the phenomena of
out-of-the-blue major things like the ia32 port.
<<I agree, and it is a problem.
>>
(it = performance problems)
Yes, and it is a problem that absolutely has to be dealt with in
our environment. As I said, I am quite surprised that this is not
a problem for Redhat and Cygnus (I know it is a significant problem
for other companies trying to make more use of GCC).
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2000-11-01 19:58 Robert Dewar [this message]
2000-11-01 21:17 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02 1:17 ` Geoff Keating
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2000-11-05 8:32 ` Arnaud Charlet
2000-11-05 8:53 ` Laurent Guerby
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2000-11-12 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-12 4:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-11-13 23:21 ` Richard Stallman
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2000-11-04 12:05 ` Arnaud Charlet
2000-11-03 20:46 Robert Dewar
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2000-11-02 18:32 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 18:21 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 13:22 Richard Kenner
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2000-11-02 8:08 Richard Kenner
2000-11-02 7:47 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 7:40 Robert Dewar
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2000-11-02 7:31 Richard Kenner
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2000-11-02 5:13 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 7:25 ` Jeffrey A Law
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2000-11-02 7:28 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02 4:41 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 4:40 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 10:46 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-02 4:36 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 4:35 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 22:24 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 22:16 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:38 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:36 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:29 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:28 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 21:12 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:10 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:01 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:48 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 20:39 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 21:08 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:35 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 21:03 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:34 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:32 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:59 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 20:28 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 1:09 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-01 20:27 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:26 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:17 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 20:10 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 20:05 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:19 ` Daniel Berlin
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2000-11-01 20:00 Robert Dewar
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2000-11-01 21:44 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:47 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:13 ` Stan Shebs
2000-11-01 19:43 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 20:38 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:42 Mike Stump
2000-11-01 19:31 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:40 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:53 ` Stan Shebs
2000-11-01 21:30 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 19:23 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:20 Robert Dewar
2000-11-02 0:20 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2000-11-01 19:18 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:08 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 18:58 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:06 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-03 11:50 ` Toon Moene
2000-11-02 14:09 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-03 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-01 18:53 Robert Dewar
2000-11-01 19:16 ` Daniel Berlin
2000-11-01 19:20 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02 1:07 ` Geoff Keating
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2000-11-01 19:46 ` Chris G. Demetriou
2000-11-02 0:48 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-01 18:51 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:26 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:49 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 18:23 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:47 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 18:11 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:09 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:22 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 17:58 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 18:07 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-01 17:39 Richard Kenner
2000-11-01 17:51 ` Richard Henderson
2000-11-01 18:09 ` David Starner
2000-11-01 18:21 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-11-02 15:03 ` Richard Stallman
2000-11-03 8:41 ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-04 8:53 ` Richard Stallman
2000-10-14 11:40 Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 11:36 Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 11:35 Robert Dewar
2000-10-14 14:03 ` Corey Minyard
2000-10-13 15:12 Richard Kenner
2000-10-14 3:17 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-01 15:54 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-13 9:17 Robert Dewar
2000-10-12 23:52 Mike Stump
2000-10-13 6:03 ` David O'Brien
2000-10-12 20:09 Richard Kenner
2000-10-12 19:59 Robert Dewar
2000-10-12 4:25 Richard Kenner
2000-10-13 14:50 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12 4:21 Richard Kenner
2000-10-13 15:04 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12 4:16 Robert Dewar
2000-10-11 17:04 Richard Kenner
2000-10-12 0:15 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12 13:47 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-12 19:54 ` Corey Minyard
2000-10-01 8:35 Robert Dewar
2000-10-10 20:04 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-11 12:37 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-10-12 0:15 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-12 15:40 ` Richard Stallman
2000-10-13 8:46 ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-10-14 11:27 ` Hartmut Schirmer
2000-10-14 12:21 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-09-25 17:28 Robert Dewar
2000-09-26 12:56 ` Laurent Guerby
2000-09-18 13:12 Richard Kenner
2000-09-18 15:38 ` Stan Shebs
2000-09-18 23:02 ` jfm2
2000-09-18 9:49 Richard Kenner
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2000-09-18 9:45 William Gacquer
2000-09-18 9:52 ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-09-18 9:32 Richard Kenner
2000-09-18 8:23 Gene Montgomery
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