From: "Zack Weinberg" <zackw@stanford.edu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Trigraph warnings when compiling linux-2.4.0-prerelease1
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:39:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010103233857.D12948@wolery.stanford.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2k88d7mwe.fsf@kelso.bothner.com>
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:51:45AM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
>
> > -Wtrigraphs
> > Warn if any trigraphs are encountered (assuming they are enabled).
> >
> > which certainly implies to me that even if you enabled "-Wtrigraphs", it
> > wouldn't even't cause a warning if trigraphs aren't enabled (and again,
> > it's documented that they are enabled by "-ansi" and by "-trigraphs" and
> > disabled by default).
>
> That is not my reading of the documentation, nor I think what it
> intended to say. It clearly is silly that -Wtrigraphs would have no
> effect if trigraphs are disabled - you might still want the warning to
> catch cases of unintended trigraphs being miscompiled by other
> compilers.
Historically (with cccp; that's GCC <= 2.95.x for most people) you got
the trigraph warnings only if you put both -Wtrigraphs (or -Wall) and
-trigraphs. In other words, Linus' reading matches the behavior of
the program for all current official releases of GCC. I decided when
I started working on cpplib that the trigraph warning should be active
even when trigraph conversion was off. This has been in place for a
long time, but with different semantics depending on which snapshot
you have. Redhat's 2.96, if I remember correctly, warns about them
inside comments; current 2.97 snapshots don't.
For user space code, this has in fact been found to be useful. There
exist C compilers whose only behavior is to silently convert
trigraphs, and some of them are relatively popular. The example I
know about is DEC/Compaq's C compiler for Alphas. There's a fair
number of people who want to compile the same code with both GCC and
that compiler.
Current documentation, as pointed out downthread, has been clarified.
I would be open to discussion of whether -Wtrigraphs should be in
-Wall. On the one hand, it is a rare problem. On the other, it is
easy to silence the warning, and hard to find the problem if you've
never heard of trigraphs.
You could easily throw -Wno-trigraphs into the kernel Makefiles; that
option has been recognized by GCC since before 2.7.2.
zw
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200101020654.WAA03344@neosilicon.transmeta.com>
2001-01-01 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 0:23 ` Fergus Henderson
2001-01-02 9:18 ` Joe Buck
2001-01-02 10:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 10:58 ` Joe Buck
2001-01-02 11:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 11:50 ` Per Bothner
2001-01-02 11:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 12:40 ` Joe Buck
2001-01-02 13:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-02 14:50 ` Toon Moene
2001-01-03 23:39 ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2001-01-02 13:27 dewar
2001-01-02 15:20 ` Joe Buck
2001-01-02 19:03 ` Fergus Henderson
2001-01-03 11:21 ` Joe Buck
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-02 12:05 dewar
2001-01-02 9:26 dewar
2001-01-01 9:56 Rich Baum
2001-01-01 11:50 ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-01-01 15:16 ` Joe Buck
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