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From: Jan Hubicka <jh@suse.cz>
To: Tim Prince <tprince@computer.org>
Cc: Jan Hubicka <jh@suse.cz>, Toon Moene <toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>,
	Joern Rennecke <amylaar@redhat.com>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:17:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010729211502.O3548@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003901c11862$888ae470$9865fea9@timayum4srqln4>

> glibc as a whole is so dependent on i386 assembly that it would be a
> major project to change.  It might be interesting to include direct
Gcc currently have an method to add machine dependent builtins used
by the SSE code.  I think in same sense we can add machine dependent
builtins for the few remaining i387 instructions we don't generate
directly and then use mathinline.h to do right job converting them
to 'C' way.

I believe this is clean solution.
> support for more math intrinsics in gcc, but that begins to encroach on
> the traditional separation between gcc and support libraries.  I suppose
> this would involve built-ins for frexp(), ldexp() et al. in each
> supported precision.  I fear that a noticeable amount of efficiency
I must say I don't follow the above...
> could be lost, and we would remain with the question of full accuracy
> and safety vs speed in certain cases.  A beginning would be to organize
> mathinline.h so as to be based on such a group of builtins in order to
> test them in the current framework.  This project may not offer
This sounds exactly what I say :) So we seems to be in tune.

Honza
> sufficient return without assurance of glibc taking advantage of it and
> becoming more portable.
> >
> > If you have sanified version and you can get the copyring issues,
> > please try to contribute the changed to glibc.
> I took this far enough with the glibc maintainers to see that their
> point of view does not allow introduction of any "safety features."  Now
> I will be even further away, wanting to improve support for P4.
I

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-29 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2001-07-17 12:23               ` associative law in combine Jan Hubicka
2001-07-17 15:41                 ` Dima Volodin
2001-07-17 15:59                 ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-18  1:01                   ` Toon Moene
2001-07-18  1:47                     ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Jan Hubicka
2001-07-28 23:04                       ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29  6:33                         ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 10:18                           ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29 10:26                             ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 12:11                               ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29 12:17                                 ` Jan Hubicka [this message]
2001-07-29 10:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-18 11:30                     ` associative law in combine Joern Rennecke
2001-07-29 12:52 * Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative lawin combine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-29 14:03 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Stephen L Moshier
2001-07-29 21:17   ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Fergus Henderson
2001-07-30  0:23     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-29 14:22 dewar
2001-07-29 21:33 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 14:43 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 15:45   ` Neil Booth
2001-07-30 16:03     ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 16:11       ` Neil Booth
2001-07-30 16:28         ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:08   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 19:22     ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:29       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 19:34         ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:54           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 19:27     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30  5:57 dewar
2001-07-30  6:00 dewar
2001-07-30 13:08 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30  6:01 dewar
2001-07-30  6:53 ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-07-30  6:14 dewar
2001-07-30  8:30 ` Kevin Handy
2001-07-30  8:59 mike stump
2001-07-30 11:37 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 11:53 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 18:40   ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-30 19:06     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31  1:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-31  2:04     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31  2:35       ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-31  2:58         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31 18:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 11:52 dewar
2001-07-30 12:26 dewar
2001-07-30 13:10 dewar
2001-07-30 15:29 dewar
2001-07-30 15:39 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30 16:11 dewar
2001-07-30 16:29 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-31  8:13   ` Kevin Handy
2001-07-30 18:00 dewar
2001-07-30 18:25 ` Joe Buck
2001-07-30 18:02 dewar
2001-07-30 18:08 dewar
2001-07-30 18:38 dewar
2001-07-30 18:39 dewar
2001-07-30 19:46 dewar
2001-07-30 20:00 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 20:20   ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 20:25     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 20:54 dewar
2001-07-30 21:11 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 21:39 ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 21:13 dewar
2001-07-30 21:34 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 21:43   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 21:53     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-03  7:12       ` Nick Ing-Simmons
2001-08-01  8:55   ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01  9:15     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01 11:21       ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01 11:44         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01  9:24     ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-08-01  9:54       ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-08-01 10:26         ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 11:13           ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Alexandre Oliva
2001-08-01 11:36             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01 12:07               ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-08-01 13:21                 ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 14:20                   ` Toon Moene
2001-07-31  7:26 dewar
2001-07-31 15:57 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-31 21:55   ` Tim Prince
2001-08-03  6:12 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-07-31  7:59 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:19 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:35 dewar
2001-07-31  8:36 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:36 dewar
2001-07-31  8:37 dewar
2001-07-31  9:22 mike stump
2001-07-31 16:38 dewar
2001-07-31 17:37 dewar
2001-07-31 18:12 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-31 20:55 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31 18:15 dewar
2001-07-31 18:20 dewar
2001-07-31 18:50 ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-31 21:27   ` Tim Prince
2001-07-31 18:23 dewar
2001-07-31 19:10 dewar
2001-08-01  3:02 Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-01  6:04 dewar
2001-08-01  6:48 ` Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-03  0:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-01  6:52 dewar
2001-08-01  9:58 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 10:08 ` Wolfgang Bangerth
2001-08-01 11:12   ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 11:27     ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01 11:47       ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-03  7:32         ` Nick Ing-Simmons
2001-08-03  6:01     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-08-01  9:59 dewar
2001-08-01 10:04 dewar
2001-08-01 10:28 ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 10:05 dewar
2001-08-01 10:13 dewar
2001-08-01 10:38 dewar
2001-08-01 10:39 dewar
2001-08-01 12:06 Phil Edwards
2001-08-01 19:04 Carlo Wood
2001-08-02  3:37 Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-03 14:48 dewar

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