From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Frank Klemm To: Zack Weinberg , gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Proposal Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:23:00 -0000 Message-id: <20010918211231.A21191@fuchs.offl.uni-jena.de> References: <20010917235928.A11347@daikokuya.demon.co.uk> <20010918102000.D3510@codesourcery.com> X-SW-Source: 2001-09/msg00723.html On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:20:00AM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > I'd also point out that very few people have access to the standard; > yes, ANSI sells copies for not-totally-outrageous sums, but many don't > know that and the cost may still be too high. > Most programmers don't know the standard and are not interested in knowing the standard, because their (present) job is to solve a problem for one or two different systems, not for every theoretically possible system, and the standard supports nearly every stuff which has more than 4 pins ;-) Programming portable, especially with C, takes much more time than programming for a special system, and the programmers don't have this time. And some kins of problems are not supported by C, so you must write it in a sub assembler language way. > Counterproposal: Require people who propose extensions to document > their semantics in detail, to the point where a formal proposal > _could_ be made to the standard committee, but don't make them get > beaten up by comp.std.c. Debate the extension here and in the user > community. If there's agreement that it would be useful, it would not > clash with present or future standard behavior, and it would not cause > unfortunate consequences down the road, then we implement it. > > For all extensions, present or proposed, we either write up a formal > proposal to the standard committee, or we deprecate the extension. > The proposals are stored on the website. Should we ever be in the > position of having representation on the committee (which I believe we > currently do not) we can then submit them. > I'm looking for some webspace for feature proposals, performance issues and warning issues. And someone who translates my "pseudo English" into "real English". - 1 Mbyte for HTML - 5 Mbyte for tables - a link to this page -- Frank Klemm