From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32203 invoked by alias); 7 Dec 2001 02:12:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 32182 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2001 02:12:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO taltos.codesourcery.com) (66.92.14.122) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2001 02:12:52 -0000 Received: from zack by taltos.codesourcery.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16CAVN-0001f4-00; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 18:12:49 -0800 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 18:22:00 -0000 From: Zack Weinberg To: Geert Bosch Cc: guerby@acm.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: ACATS legal status cleared by FSF Message-ID: <20011207021249.GC25764@codesourcery.com> References: <20011206230811.GK8267@codesourcery.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-SW-Source: 2001-12/txt/msg00343.txt.bz2 On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 06:40:27PM -0500, Geert Bosch wrote: > > Yes, I'm confident it does too. That is why I am in favor of adding > these tests and running them. Of all the Ada cases you're talking about, > there has not even been one that was related to a B test. They are > completely useless for testing the backend and almost useless for > the front end. My experience working on the C front end has been that tests for proper diagnostics from ill-formed code are extremely useful. Can you explain why they're almost useless for the Ada front end? > I think it is important to realize, that it is easy enough to go and > add B tests later on, if you find they would have caught problems that > went by unnoticed. The tests are available and can be added at any time. > Paying a high upfront price to prevent this scenario that the Ada > maintainers find unlikely to be a problem, seems not a good idea to me. > The only thing it will do is hinder development. This is all fair. How about a compromise position where you check the B tests into the CVS tree but don't bother adding dejagnu harnesses for them. They are then instantly available if they are needed. zw