public inbox for gcc@gcc.gnu.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Edelsohn <dje@watson.ibm.com>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Gerald Pfeifer <pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at>,
	"gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Release schedule
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 13:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209281959.PAA23576@makai.watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>  of "Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:38:07 PDT." <43770000.1033231087@warlock.codesourcery.com>

>>>>> Mark Mitchell writes:

Mark> If necessary, I will ask the SC to close the various other development
Mark> branches.  Part of our problem is that we are all working on new C++
Mark> parsers, SIMPLE, loop optimizers, and all kinds of fun stuff -- not
Mark> fixing bugs.

Mark> We need to remind ourselves that teamwork requires the tedium of drills
Mark> in addition to the fun of playing games.

	When do you propose that major, new features be developed?  Our
current schedule does not allocate any time for the extended effort
required to design and implement major advances.  It does provide for
merging major, new features in Stage 1, but new features cannot be
developed in three months.

	Because of the overlap between releases and development, GCC
developers are forced to make a choice.  Many developers were unable to
contribute major improvements they had planned for GCC 3.3 because they
spent all their time in the GCC 3.1/3.2 release engineering process.  They
justifiably are not going to allow themselves to be placed in the same
predicament.

	The current GCC schedule is unworkable because it does not provide
any time when developers can have fun and make great strides without
affecting the release schedule.  The GCC schedule should be revised to
take this into account.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-28 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-25 11:53 Mark Mitchell
2002-09-25 11:55 ` Dale Johannesen
2002-09-25 12:42 ` Michael Matz
2002-09-29 12:07   ` Richard Henderson
2002-09-30  7:21     ` Michael Matz
2002-09-25 13:19 ` David Edelsohn
2002-09-25 13:53   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2002-09-25 14:45   ` Geoff Keating
2002-09-25 15:05   ` Devang Patel
2002-09-26 11:45   ` Eric Botcazou
2002-09-25 13:43 ` David S. Miller
2002-09-26  3:32   ` David S. Miller
2002-09-25 16:00 ` David Edelsohn
2002-09-29 12:58   ` Richard Henderson
2002-09-26  2:03 ` Richard Earnshaw
2002-09-26  9:25 ` Alexander Kabaev
2002-09-26 14:46 ` Florian Weimer
2002-09-26 14:59   ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-09-26 15:16     ` Zack Weinberg
2002-09-28  7:41 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-09-28  7:54 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-09-28 10:06   ` Mark Mitchell
2002-09-28 13:26     ` David Edelsohn [this message]
2002-09-28 14:52       ` Steven Bosscher
2002-09-28 16:00         ` David Edelsohn
2002-09-30 10:34         ` Mike Stump
2002-09-30  9:20 ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-09-30 10:30   ` Andrew Pinski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-30 16:02 S. Bosscher
2002-09-30 16:06 ` Pop Sébastian
2002-09-30 20:05 ` Joe Buck
2002-10-01 16:03   ` Stan Shebs
2002-09-28 13:06 Roger Sayle
2002-04-26  0:30 Release Schedule Jim Blomo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200209281959.PAA23576@makai.watson.ibm.com \
    --to=dje@watson.ibm.com \
    --cc=gcc@gcc.gnu.org \
    --cc=mark@codesourcery.com \
    --cc=pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).