From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3841 invoked by alias); 17 Dec 2002 03:14:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 3635 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2002 03:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU) (128.250.1.22) by 209.249.29.67 with SMTP; 17 Dec 2002 03:14:19 -0000 Received: from hg.cs.mu.oz.au (hg.cs.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.33.14]) by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with ESMTP id OAA05936; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:13:13 +1100 (EST) Received: (from fjh@localhost) by hg.cs.mu.oz.au (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) id gBH3D9q00948; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:13:09 +1100 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:16:00 -0000 From: Fergus Henderson To: Dale Johannesen Cc: Jan Hubicka , David Edelsohn , Zack Weinberg , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org, rth@cygnus.com Subject: Re: basic-improvements merge status Message-ID: <20021217141309.A918@hg.cs.mu.OZ.AU> References: <20021216235608.GN3138@kam.mff.cuni.cz> <546C6EA0-1156-11D7-8A5A-003065C86F94@apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <546C6EA0-1156-11D7-8A5A-003065C86F94@apple.com>; from dalej@apple.com on Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:27:31PM -0800 X-SW-Source: 2002-12/txt/msg00992.txt.bz2 On 16-Dec-2002, Dale Johannesen wrote: > > On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 03:56 PM, Jan Hubicka wrote: > > >> > >> On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 02:44 PM, Jan Hubicka wrote: > >>> On C99 and C++ it is always valid as runtime is required to have it > >>> (and > >>> thats why libstdc++ does it). > >> > >> According to the C99 standard, this is right, but GCC does not control > >> the > >> runtime libraries. What should the behavior of -std=c99 be, when > >> generating code > >> for a target with non-C99-conformant libraries? > > > > I don't know. It is interesting combination at least (like C without > > runtime). > > "C without runtime" is known as "freestanding" in the standard, and > is actually well defined. Is this something we want to support though? Yes -- but only if the `-ffreestanding' option is specified. -- Fergus Henderson | "I have always known that the pursuit The University of Melbourne | of excellence is a lethal habit" WWW: | -- the last words of T. S. Garp.