* Varargs elimination!?
@ 2003-05-16 5:57 Bryan Helvey
2003-05-16 6:35 ` Richard Henderson
[not found] ` <20030516061342.GA16744@ceres.cs.mu.oz.au>
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From: Bryan Helvey @ 2003-05-16 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gcc
Hi,
My name is Bryan Helvey representing FreeUSP.org. We have a signal analysis
suite
'open-sourced' on the net. We use varargs.h for compatibility with GCC, SUN
C, and IRIX's C compiler (as well as Absoft, Portland, & Intel's compiler).
Is there any chance of seeing this reinstated? What is the reasoning anyway?
As a long time unix user (since 1987), I can't tell you how invaluable GNU has
been over the years. Just want to say thanks for a great job and _please_
keep up the good work(s)!
Bryan
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* Re: Varargs elimination!?
2003-05-16 5:57 Varargs elimination!? Bryan Helvey
@ 2003-05-16 6:35 ` Richard Henderson
[not found] ` <20030516061342.GA16744@ceres.cs.mu.oz.au>
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From: Richard Henderson @ 2003-05-16 6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bryan Helvey; +Cc: gcc
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 12:58:46AM -0500, Bryan Helvey wrote:
> Is there any chance of seeing this reinstated?
No. Use <stdarg.h> instead. It's just as portable.
> What is the reasoning anyway?
We no longer support the non-standardized K&R C.
r~
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* Re: Varargs elimination!?
[not found] ` <200305160843.20474.bhelvey@freeusp.org>
@ 2003-05-16 14:07 ` Fergus Henderson
2003-05-16 15:06 ` Janis Johnson
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From: Fergus Henderson @ 2003-05-16 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bryan E. Helvey; +Cc: gcc
On 16-May-2003, Bryan E. Helvey <bhelvey@freeusp.org> wrote:
> BTW, the web page, http://www.gnu.org/directory/devel/Compilers/gcc.html still
> says:
> "The GNU Compiler Collection is a full-featured ANSI C compiler with support
> for K&R C..."
Yes -- that probably ought to be changed.
--
Fergus Henderson <fjh@cs.mu.oz.au> | "I have always known that the pursuit
The University of Melbourne | of excellence is a lethal habit"
WWW: <http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/~fjh> | -- the last words of T. S. Garp.
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* Re: Varargs elimination!?
2003-05-16 14:07 ` Fergus Henderson
@ 2003-05-16 15:06 ` Janis Johnson
2003-05-16 15:33 ` Gerald Pfeifer
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From: Janis Johnson @ 2003-05-16 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fergus Henderson; +Cc: Bryan E. Helvey, gcc
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 12:07:05AM +1000, Fergus Henderson wrote:
> On 16-May-2003, Bryan E. Helvey <bhelvey@freeusp.org> wrote:
> > BTW, the web page, http://www.gnu.org/directory/devel/Compilers/gcc.html still
> > says:
> > "The GNU Compiler Collection is a full-featured ANSI C compiler with support
> > for K&R C..."
>
> Yes -- that probably ought to be changed.
Ouch, that whole page has lots of out-of-date information. I'll take a
crack at putting together a patch to fix it, which can be reviewed here
before being submitted to the GNU web page maintainers. There's also a
separate page for g++ that ought to be dealt with somehow.
These pages list maintainers, developers, and sponsors of the project.
Mark Mitchell is listed as the maintainer for GCC, but the g++ page
lists the GCC Steering Committee, which seems more appropriate. For
developers there can be a link to thanks.html (the g++ page does this).
For sponsors the GCC page lists "Cygnus (a RedHat company),
CodeSourcery"; should we continue to list Red Hat and CodeSourcery
there? This is related to the recent discussion about the Cygnus entry
in the FAQ.
Janis
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* Re: Varargs elimination!?
2003-05-16 15:06 ` Janis Johnson
@ 2003-05-16 15:33 ` Gerald Pfeifer
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From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2003-05-16 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Janis Johnson; +Cc: Fergus Henderson, Bryan E. Helvey, gcc
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Janis Johnson wrote:
>>> BTW, the web page, http://www.gnu.org/directory/devel/Compilers/gcc.html still
>>> says:
> Ouch, that whole page has lots of out-of-date information. I'll take a
> crack at putting together a patch to fix it, which can be reviewed here
> before being submitted to the GNU web page maintainers. There's also a
> separate page for g++ that ought to be dealt with somehow.
Thanks! I believe we should merge the gcc and g++ pages; after all, there
are other frontends as well, and having many such pages makes maintainance
harder.
> These pages list maintainers, developers, and sponsors of the project.
> Mark Mitchell is listed as the maintainer for GCC, but the g++ page
> lists the GCC Steering Committee, which seems more appropriate.
Ack.
> For developers there can be a link to thanks.html (the g++ page does
> this).
Fine.
> For sponsors the GCC page lists "Cygnus (a RedHat company),
> CodeSourcery"; should we continue to list Red Hat and CodeSourcery
> there? This is related to the recent discussion about the Cygnus entry
> in the FAQ.
Ouch. What qualifies a sponsor? If these two are listed, even though
they _are_ prominent companies in GCC-land, we need to list at least a
dozen of further ones (SuSE, Gaby's company, I assume IBM, Motorola?,
Apple,...).
Frankly, having such detailed information on a page that is beyond our
direct control and maintainance is a Big Thing. I'd much prefer also
giving proper credits to companies in doc/contrib.tex (= thanks.html)
and remove those two entries.
Gerald
--
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.pfeifer.com/gerald/
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