From: Theodore Papadopoulo <Theodore.Papadopoulo@sophia.inria.fr>
To: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner)
Cc: hubicka@ucw.cz, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Contributing tree-ssa to mainline
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:26:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200401191300.i0JD0sm7002794@mururoa.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10401191226.AA27734@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>
kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu said:
> A case I know about in Ada is check elimination. Because the default
> for Ada is enabling checking, it's quite important to eliminate checks
> that can be proven not to fail. Theoretically, a lot this could be
> language-independent optimizers by value range propagation and related
> optimizations. But the front-end can do a much better job because it
> has information only it knows. Moreover, by suppressing the check
> before generating any code for it, compilation time is reduced. I
> think this is clearly the proper place for that optimization.
AFAIK, tree-ssa would be beneficial in this situation. By making the
check elimination work on GIMPLE (I hope it is the proper place),
this would remove this from the ADA front-end and generalize to other
languages. I assume that the sole introduction of optimization on
trees allow you to move some code out of the front-end to the tree
optimization passes of tree-ssa.
That being said, as an exterior observer, what I can say is that we
have seen quite a few major contributors switching to tree-ssa recently...
This is surely partially because gcc-3.4 was in stage 3, but the move
has been more marked than for previous releases
IMHO.
Having the work-forces (rougthly) splitted in two is not a good thing IMO.
That should be considered...
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2004-01-19 12:24 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 12:31 ` Andrew Haley
2004-01-19 12:36 ` Paul Brook
2004-01-19 12:39 ` Paul Brook
2004-01-19 12:38 ` Andrew Haley
2004-01-19 12:49 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 17:42 ` Geert Bosch
2004-01-19 17:51 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 17:56 ` John R. Shannon
2004-01-19 18:02 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 18:09 ` Geert Bosch
2004-01-19 18:27 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 12:51 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 15:51 ` law
2004-01-19 17:30 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 17:48 ` law
2004-01-19 17:57 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 13:26 ` Theodore Papadopoulo [this message]
2004-01-19 14:23 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:00 ` Tom Tromey
2004-01-19 18:11 ` Andrew Haley
2004-01-19 18:39 ` Jeff Sturm
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-20 12:36 Richard Kenner
2004-01-20 15:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-20 15:14 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-20 16:14 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-20 11:46 Richard Kenner
2004-01-20 11:57 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-20 4:35 Robert Dewar
2004-01-20 4:23 Richard Kenner
2004-01-20 4:28 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20 11:15 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 23:40 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 23:15 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 23:31 ` tm_gccmail
2004-01-19 19:13 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 18:06 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 16:12 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 15:05 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 15:56 ` law
2004-01-19 22:41 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-19 14:17 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 14:46 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 17:58 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2004-01-19 14:02 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 12:29 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 11:44 Richard Kenner
2004-01-19 12:00 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 12:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-19 12:12 ` Richard Henderson
2004-01-18 13:09 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 17:17 Dara Hazeghi
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2004-01-17 13:35 Richard Kenner
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2004-01-17 15:26 ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-01-17 13:33 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 13:29 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 17:58 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 13:20 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 3:26 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 14:49 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 3:21 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 3:26 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 5:52 ` Per Bothner
2004-01-17 6:09 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-18 2:46 ` Scott A Crosby
2004-01-17 8:00 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 13:47 ` Florian Weimer
2004-01-17 14:48 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 14:53 ` Florian Weimer
2004-01-17 15:14 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 17:07 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 17:14 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 17:40 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 18:34 ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-17 14:57 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 23:30 ` Joe Buck
2004-01-19 23:43 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-20 0:20 ` Dale Johannesen
2004-01-20 3:12 ` Geert Bosch
2004-01-20 3:27 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 3:15 Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 2:56 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 3:14 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-17 3:20 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 2:52 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 3:12 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-17 2:39 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 3:04 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 16:55 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-19 14:48 ` Lars Segerlund
2004-01-19 23:37 ` Joe Buck
2004-01-17 2:28 Richard Kenner
2004-01-17 3:09 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-17 5:04 ` Roger Sayle
2004-01-17 5:31 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 6:04 ` Roger Sayle
2004-01-17 6:19 ` David Edelsohn
2004-01-17 14:54 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 14:01 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-17 14:20 ` Roger Sayle
2004-01-17 14:29 ` Roger Sayle
2004-01-17 14:44 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-17 15:07 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-17 14:37 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-17 21:32 ` Richard Henderson
2004-01-17 21:45 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 5:06 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 6:13 ` law
2004-01-17 12:07 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 12:15 ` John R. Shannon
2004-01-19 23:46 ` Joe Buck
2004-01-17 0:19 Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 0:31 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 0:35 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-17 0:44 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-17 0:53 ` law
2004-01-17 0:54 ` law
2004-01-17 1:37 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-17 1:46 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 0:55 ` Eric Christopher
2004-01-17 2:48 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 22:08 ` Eric Christopher
2004-01-17 1:02 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 1:51 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-01-17 2:01 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-17 2:17 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-01-17 3:01 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 2:19 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-17 3:02 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 3:55 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-17 3:36 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 13:06 ` Giovanni Bajo
2004-01-17 13:53 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-18 7:01 ` law
2004-01-17 17:04 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-01-17 17:16 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 17:30 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-01-17 17:50 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 17:37 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 17:46 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 17:51 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 18:11 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 19:12 ` Arnaud Charlet
2004-01-29 0:36 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 17:58 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 18:09 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 18:06 ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-18 7:15 ` law
2004-01-18 15:50 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 17:12 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-01-17 17:26 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 5:31 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 6:15 ` law
2004-01-17 6:22 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-17 6:38 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 14:45 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-17 21:23 ` law
2004-01-17 21:33 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-18 2:34 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-17 11:16 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 17:50 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 18:06 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-01-17 20:14 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-17 23:38 ` Toon Moene
2004-01-18 1:06 ` Phil Edwards
2004-01-17 2:15 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-17 3:01 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-17 11:08 ` Andrew Walrond
2004-01-17 23:33 ` Toon Moene
2004-01-17 14:30 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 14:57 ` Paul Brook
2004-01-17 15:28 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-17 21:24 ` law
2004-01-17 21:47 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-17 19:01 ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-17 19:23 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-18 0:14 ` Toon Moene
2004-01-20 1:39 ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-01-20 2:00 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-20 2:08 ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-20 2:31 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-20 15:19 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-20 15:27 ` Andrew Haley
2004-01-20 2:09 ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-22 8:49 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-17 19:22 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-17 19:34 ` Richard Guenther
2004-01-17 20:21 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-18 1:24 ` David Edelsohn
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