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From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
To: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>
Cc: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>,
	Andrew Pinski <pinskia@physics.uc.edu>,
	tech@openbsd.org, Marc Espie <espie@quatramaran.ens.fr>,
	"gcc@gcc.gnu.org List" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: gcc and compiling speed
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 03:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403010359.i213xcqp005885@cvs.openbsd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "01 Mar 2004 04:44:58 +0100." <m3ishpjkn9.fsf@uniton.integrable-solutions.net>

> (I assumed you're not suggesting they download the entire BSD
> kernel) 

We don't believe it is restricted to just our kernel.  And we've never
really talked about kernel compile speed, instead we measure "make
build" time, that meaning the compilation of the full system --
kernel, bootblocks, all the libraries, everything.  It is a giant
source tree.

A 40% slowdown from just changing compilers ... how do you explain
that?  I explain it by saying the compiler builds the entire system
40% slower.

More than that, we think everything compiles slower, on all
architectures.  There is some variance; some systems slow down more
than others.

And thus far, there's been no real evidence contrary.

Perhaps the gcc people are sticking to microbenchmarks?

We don't know.  But they keep asking for micro-test reports... Why
don't they compare themselves to see how much slower it is.  For
the best impact, I recommend using a sparc64.  But an i386 or powerpc
will show it too.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-01  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-01  0:43 Andrew Pinski
2004-03-01  2:58 ` Theo de Raadt
2004-03-01  3:07   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-03-01  3:46     ` Theo de Raadt
2004-03-01  3:55       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-01  3:59         ` Theo de Raadt [this message]
2004-03-01  4:15           ` Daniel Berlin
2004-03-14 22:15             ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-03-01  6:00           ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-03-01 19:40             ` Peter Galbavy
2004-03-01 19:51               ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-03-01 20:05                 ` Peter Galbavy
2004-03-01 20:15                   ` William Ahern
2004-03-01  3:10   ` Zack Weinberg
2004-03-01  3:49     ` Theo de Raadt
2004-03-01  4:00       ` Eric Christopher
2004-03-01  4:05         ` Theo de Raadt
2004-03-01  4:11           ` Eric Christopher
2004-03-01  4:00       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-01  4:01       ` Zack Weinberg
     [not found]         ` <20040301071403.GA8953@tetto.gentiane.org>
2004-03-01  7:27           ` Zack Weinberg
2004-03-01  8:09   ` Steven Bosscher
2004-03-01  4:23 Vincent Diepeveen
2004-03-01  5:00 ` John S. Dyson
2004-03-01  5:31   ` Zack Weinberg

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