From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20365 invoked by alias); 6 Apr 2004 14:15:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 20317 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2004 14:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nevyn.them.org) (66.93.172.17) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2004 14:15:47 -0000 Received: from drow by nevyn.them.org with local (Exim 4.30 #1 (Debian)) id 1BArMa-0007ek-J6; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:15:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:15:00 -0000 From: Daniel Jacobowitz To: Chris Lattner Cc: Robert Dewar , Andrew Pinski , stl@caltech.edu, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Of Bounties and Mercenaries Message-ID: <20040406141540.GA29206@nevyn.them.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Lattner , Robert Dewar , Andrew Pinski , stl@caltech.edu, gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: <40727602.2080502@gnat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-SW-Source: 2004-04/txt/msg00278.txt.bz2 On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 09:07:48AM -0500, Chris Lattner wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Robert Dewar wrote: > > > Chris Lattner wrote: > > > Andrew Pinski wrote: > > > > > >>The other problem with this is that "Modern" "Standard" C++ has the > > >>following problems: > > >>1. Makes a mess out of simplifying code from the compiling when the > > >>compiler is being miscompiled itself. > > > > > > > > > Huh? > > > > If you really don't understand the above point 1, that's surprising. > > Have you ever actually worked through problems in a self-compiling > > bootstrapped compiler? Or are you just arguing language merits? > > No, I just can't parse the english statement. Can Andrew or someone else > restate? Sure: I believe what Andrew is saying is that when you have a failure in the stage2 compiler, i.e. a miscompiled compiler, it becomes substantially harder to diagnose and minimise. Whether that's true or not I don't know. It's plausible. -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer