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From: Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.COM>
To: Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org>
Cc: Mike Stump <mrs@apple.com>, Biagio Lucini <lucini@phys.ethz.ch>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, gomp@nongnu.org, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: OpenMP licensing problem: a solution
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 02:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041123170320.A27093@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0411231944000.29669@dberlin.org>; from dberlin@dberlin.org on Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:47:43PM -0500



On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Mike Stump wrote:
> > Also, 
> > bear in mind, what the person says has no legal weight, if they person you 
> > are talking to has no legal standing.
> 
> It's never a good idea to make assumptions about what principles the law 
> follows :).

On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:47:43PM -0500, Daniel Berlin wrote:
> In this case, what you've said isn't necessarily or even usually true.
> Take a gander at the law of agency, in particular the principle of 
> "apparent authority" (and also the principles of various forms 
> of estoppel). Of course, you'd end up in court in this case, which you'd 
> want to avoid, but you don't get to hold yourself out and give legal 
> answers on behalf of your employer without any consequences :).

"estoppel", as I understand it, means that the court won't find you guilty
if you rely on a promise that you had good reason to think was a valid
promise (for example, because someone claiming to speak for a company made
it to you).  I have no idea, though, what "good reason" means in this
case.  Red Hat recently put out a piece explaining that the estoppel
principle would keep a future evil Red Hat management from suing free
software developers for infringing on Red Hat's patents, because the
developers are relying on an official promise:

http://www.redhat.com/magazine/001nov04/features/patents/
http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html

Still, estoppel is an Anglo/American concept, and might not be good
elsewhere.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-24  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-23  9:31 Biagio Lucini
2004-11-24  0:03 ` Mike Stump
2004-11-24  1:03   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-11-24  2:09     ` Joe Buck [this message]
2004-11-24  3:20     ` Mike Stump
2004-11-24  5:35       ` Daniel Berlin
2004-11-24  7:52         ` Joe Buck

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