From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12920 invoked by alias); 27 Apr 2005 15:29:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 11682 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2005 15:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serenity.mcc.ac.uk) (130.88.200.93) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 2005 15:28:46 -0000 Received: from compsoc.umu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.22.5] helo=mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1DQoSy-0007r7-VW; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:28:44 +0100 Received: from cow by mrtall.compsoc.man.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1DQoSy-000MvZ-00; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:28:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:45:00 -0000 From: Jonathan Wakely To: Matt Thomas Cc: David Edelsohn , Gcc Mailing List Subject: Re: GCC 4.1: Buildable on GHz machines only? Message-ID: <20050427152844.GA86951@compsoc.man.ac.uk> References: <426F2D5D.7010305@3am-software.com> <200504271441.j3REfND27584@makai.watson.ibm.com> <426FAA43.7030009@3am-software.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <426FAA43.7030009@3am-software.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1DQoSy-0007r7-VW*BrQ5/qzEZkI* X-SW-Source: 2005-04/txt/msg01513.txt.bz2 On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:05:39AM -0700, Matt Thomas wrote: > David Edelsohn wrote: > > > GCC now supports C++, Fortran 90 and Java. Those languages have > > extensive, complicated runtimes. The GCC Java environment is becoming > > much more complete and standards compliant, which means adding more and > > more features. > > That's all positive but if GCC also becomes too expensive to build then > all those extra features become worthless. Worthless to whom? The features under discussion are new, they didn't exist before. If you survived without them previously you can do so now. (i.e. don't build libjava if your machine isn't capable of it) But claiming it's "worthless" when plenty of people are using it is just, well ... worthless. jon -- "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley