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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>,
		Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
		Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>,
		Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
		Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, 	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
		LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
		Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
		Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	feng.tang@intel.com, 	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	jakub@redhat.com, 	gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091119202526.GG4967@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258661141.22249.962.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:05:41PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 20:46 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:28:06PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> > > 	<function>:
> > > 		call __fentry__
> > > 		[...]
> > > 
> > > 	
> > > -- Steve
> > 
> > 
> > I would really like this. So that we can forget about other possible
> > further suprises due to sophisticated function prologues beeing before
> > the mcount call.
> > 
> > And I guess that would fix it in every archs.
> 
> Well, other archs use a register to store the return address. But it
> would also be easy to do (pseudo arch assembly):
> 
> 	<function>:
> 		mov lr, (%sp)
> 		add 8, %sp
> 		blr __fentry__
> 		sub 8, %sp
> 		mov (%sp), lr
> 
> 
> That way the lr would have the current function, and the parent would
> still be at 8(%sp)
> 


Yeah right, we need at least such very tiny prologue for
archs that store return addresses in a reg.

	
> > 
> > That said, Linus had a good point about the fact there might other uses
> > of mcount even more tricky than what does the function graph tracer,
> > outside the kernel, and those may depend on the strict ABI assumption
> > that 4(ebp) is always the _real_ return address, and that through all
> > the previous stack call. This is even a concern that extrapolates the
> > single mcount case.
> 
> As I am proposing a new call. This means that mcount stay as is for
> legacy reasons. Yes I know there exists the -finstrument-functions but
> that adds way too much bloat to the code. One single call to the
> profiler is all I want.


Sure, the purpose is not to change the existing -mcount thing.
What I meant is that we could have -mcount and -real-ra-before-fp
at the same time to guarantee fp + 4 is really what we want while
using -mcount.

The __fentry__ idea is more neat, but the guarantee of a real pointer
to the return address is still something that lacks.


> > 
> > So I wonder that actually the real problem is the lack of something that
> > could provide this guarantee. We may need a -real-ra-before-fp (yeah
> > I suck in naming).
> 
> Don't worry, so do the C compiler folks, I mean, come on "mcount"?


I guess it has been first created for the single purpose of counting
specific functions but then it has been used for wider, unpredicted uses :)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-19 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-11-19 15:39         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 15:45           ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 15:55             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 15:59               ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 16:03             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 16:13               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 16:20               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 16:07             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 16:19               ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 16:45                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 16:13             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 15:46           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 15:51             ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 15:53               ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 17:38               ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-19 17:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 17:52             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 18:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 18:04               ` Richard Guenther
2009-11-19 18:23                 ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 18:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 18:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 18:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 19:03                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-23  9:17                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-23  9:53                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 19:12                         ` David Daney
2009-11-19 19:29                           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 19:47                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 19:55                               ` Kai Tietz
2009-11-19 20:06                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 20:06                               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 20:18                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 20:29                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-19 20:26                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-11-19 20:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 20:45                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 19:51                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 20:08                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 21:13                                 ` Jeff Law
2009-11-19 20:11                               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 21:07                               ` Jeff Law
2009-11-19 18:34                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 18:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19 18:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19 19:08                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 19:51                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-20  9:58                       ` [PATCH] gcc mcount-nofp was " Andi Kleen
2009-11-20 12:35                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 19:08                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 20:37                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-19 18:22           ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 18:34             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-19 18:37               ` Andrew Pinski
2009-11-19 18:38               ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-19 18:38               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 18:40             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  5:24         ` [PATCH][GIT PULL][v2.6.32] tracing/x86: Add check to detect GCC messing with mcount prologue Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20  5:33           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 17:02           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 17:15             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-20 19:36             ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-20 19:48               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20 19:50                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-22  9:39               ` H.J. Lu
2009-11-22 17:21                 ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-22 23:31                   ` H.J. Lu
2009-11-24 14:43                     ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 14:56                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-24 15:06                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-24 15:32                           ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 15:36                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-24 15:48                               ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 16:39                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-24 17:12                                   ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-24 17:30                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-25 20:05                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-24 19:56                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-25 15:29                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-25 15:45                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 15:53                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-25 16:26                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-25 16:45                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2009-11-25 20:13                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-25 21:01                                   ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-22  9:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19 21:16 BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-19 21:26 ` Jeff Law
2009-11-19 22:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-11-20  0:00     ` Jeff Law
2009-11-20  0:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  1:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-20  1:29           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  2:16             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-11-20  1:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-11-20  5:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-20 12:06         ` Andrew Haley
2009-11-20 12:23           ` Andrew Haley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-19 20:50 H. Peter Anvin

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