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From: Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.COM>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Robert Dewar <dewar@adacore.com>,
	Benjamin Kosnik <bkoz@redhat.com>,
	       Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>,
	       Steven Bosscher <stevenb.gcc@gmail.com>,
	       "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: GFDL/GPL issues
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:08:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100727180738.GU17485@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4F010C.5060401@codesourcery.com>

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 08:53:48AM -0700, Mark Mitchell wrote:
> I believe that the right fix (short of simply abandoning the GFDL, which
> would be fine with me, but is presumably not going to pass muster with
> RMS) is a revision to the GPL that explicitly permits relicensing GPL'd
> content under the GFDL, by anyone.  Movement in that direction should
> not be of concern to the FSF; the point of the GFDL was to prevent
> people removing the FSF's philosophical statements in its manuals, not
> to prevent GPL'd content from being used in manuals.

RMS already rejected the idea of dual-licensing just GCC (GPL/GFDL) to
deal with this problem, now you're asking to effectively dual-license all
GCC (v3.1?) code that way.  Even if he would be willing to consider it
(which I doubt), he'd want to have attorneys examine all the legal
consequences so another year will go by.

We might need to go in the other direction (less radical, but enough to
solve the immediate problem).  What if only constraints files are
dual-licensed (GPL3+ or GFDL) for now?  Then documentation can be
generated from them and we've at least solved that problem.  If RMS agrees
to that and sees that the world doesn't end, maybe he'll be open later on
to opening this door wider.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-27 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-26  4:19 Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26  7:25 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-05-26 15:42   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-05-26 16:03     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26 18:10       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-05-26 18:27         ` Richard Kenner
2010-05-26 18:42         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26 21:06           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-05-26 21:07             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26 21:42               ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-26 21:26             ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-26 21:28               ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26 22:54                 ` Steven Bosscher
2010-05-26 23:12                   ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26 21:37             ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-05-27  5:10           ` Russ Allbery
2010-05-26 19:16         ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-26 16:08     ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-26 18:09     ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-05-26 18:12       ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-26 23:12       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-05-26  8:04 ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-27  7:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-05-27  8:04     ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-27  8:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-05-26 21:15 ` Matthias Klose
2010-05-26 21:42   ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-05-26 21:51   ` Mark Mitchell
2010-05-27  0:01 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2010-05-27  5:39 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-05-27 11:46   ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-05-27 17:20   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-05-27 22:51     ` Russ Allbery
2010-05-28  0:32       ` Joern Rennecke
2010-05-28  2:51         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-07-15  0:23 ` Benjamin Kosnik
2010-07-22 23:22   ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-22 23:28     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-07-22 23:36       ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-23  0:27         ` Joe Buck
2010-07-23  2:18           ` Joern Rennecke
2010-07-23  3:11           ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-23  8:23         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-07-23 15:59           ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-23 16:34             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-07-23 16:42               ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-27  0:50           ` Benjamin Kosnik
2010-07-27  1:26             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-27  1:37               ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-27 15:54                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-27 17:41                   ` Benjamin Kosnik
2010-07-27 17:45                     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-27 21:20                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2010-07-27 18:08                   ` Joe Buck [this message]
2010-07-27 18:09                     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-27 20:25                       ` Richard Guenther
2010-07-27 21:39                         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-28 21:00                         ` Steven Bosscher
2010-07-28 21:17                           ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-28 22:08                             ` Steven Bosscher
2010-07-28 22:30                               ` Richard Guenther
2010-07-29  7:41                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-07-29  8:36                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-07-29  8:55                                   ` Miles Bader
2010-07-29  9:23                                   ` Toon Moene
2010-07-29 12:47                                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-07-29 14:11                                     ` Joern Rennecke
2010-07-29 14:25                                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-07-29 14:33                                         ` Jeff Law
2010-07-29 14:40                                           ` Richard Kenner
2010-07-30 11:02                                           ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-30 11:01                                         ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-30 18:08                                         ` Toon Moene
2010-07-29 14:53                                     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-30 11:03                                       ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-30 14:29                                         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-30 15:54                                           ` Joern Rennecke
2010-07-31  0:10                                             ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-31  3:11                                               ` Joern Rennecke
2010-07-31 12:24                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-31  0:08                                           ` Robert Dewar
2010-07-31  0:16                                             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-02 23:13                                               ` Diego Novillo
2010-08-02 23:16                                                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-08-02 23:21                                                   ` Diego Novillo
2010-08-02 23:23                                                   ` Steven Bosscher
2010-08-02 23:34                                                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-08-02 23:45                                                       ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-03  0:57                                                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-08-03  2:08                                                           ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-03 18:46                                                           ` Robert Dewar
2010-08-15 19:16                                                             ` Florian Weimer
2010-08-15 16:17                                                               ` Robert Dewar
2010-08-15 16:11                                                                 ` Florian Weimer
2010-08-15 16:19                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-08-15 19:47                                                                   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-08-15 20:21                                                                     ` Florian Weimer
2010-08-16 12:10                                                                   ` Miles Bader
2010-08-17  3:19                                                                     ` Joern Rennecke
2010-08-17  3:56                                                                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-08-17 10:41                                                                         ` Joern Rennecke
2010-08-03  9:05                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-03  0:51                                                   ` Paul Koning
2010-08-03 16:20                                                     ` Joe Buck
2010-08-03 18:49                                                       ` Robert Dewar
2010-08-03 21:45                                                         ` Steven Bosscher
2010-08-15 16:17                                                         ` Florian Weimer
2010-08-15 17:24                                                           ` Robert Dewar
2010-08-15 16:12                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-08-15 16:17                                                             ` Florian Weimer
2010-08-15 16:16                                                               ` Robert Dewar
2010-08-16 20:53                                                             ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-08-03 19:58                                                       ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-08-04  7:23                                                         ` Benjamin Kosnik
2010-08-04 13:10                                                           ` Diego Novillo
2010-08-04  7:21                                                       ` Benjamin Kosnik
2010-08-04 16:46                                                         ` Joe Buck
2010-08-04 17:35                                                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-08-04 18:37                                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 18:45                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 18:56                                                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-08-04 18:59                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 19:02                                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 20:03                                                                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2010-08-04 20:25                                                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-08-04 20:52                                                                     ` Diego Novillo
2010-08-04 21:12                                                                     ` Richard Guenther
2010-08-04 22:29                                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 23:08                                                                         ` Joe Buck
2010-08-05  3:54                                                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-05  3:09                                                                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2010-08-04 18:48                                                             ` Joe Buck
2010-08-04 20:42                                                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-08-03 18:36                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2010-08-04  0:08                                                   ` Miles Bader
2010-07-27  3:31               ` Miles Bader
2010-07-29 20:20 Brian Makin
2010-07-29 21:06 ` Joe Buck
2010-08-04 20:03 Brian Makin

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