From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9931 invoked by alias); 24 Jan 2014 12:49:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 9922 invoked by uid 89); 24 Jan 2014 12:49:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: vlsi1.gnat.com Received: from vlsi1.gnat.com (HELO vlsi1.gnat.com) (205.232.38.7) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:49:35 +0000 Received: by vlsi1.gnat.com (Postfix, from userid 3004) id 0140533CA7; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:49:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:54:00 -0000 To: iant@google.com Subject: Re: Don't shoot the messenger Cc: ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr, esr@thyrsus.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, greg.casamento@gmail.com, jwakely.gcc@gmail.com, stevenb.gcc@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20140123212747.6FE32380525@snark.thyrsus.com> <9CE797A6-7F95-435A-8F5D-EF93B9DA165A@gmail.com> <1931157.XNBpQ8mPhG@polaris> <7E84FF6E-CBB4-4217-B14F-8867BCCDBE56@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20140124124930.0140533CA7@vlsi1.gnat.com> From: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner) X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2014-01/txt/msg00247.txt.bz2 > To the extent that clang/LLVM and GCC are fighting, which is not > really the case, then I think it makes sense for GCC to focus on its > strengths, not its weaknesses. Objective C is not a strength. I'm > not sure it makes sense for the GCC project to encourage its limited > volunteer resources to work on it. I agree. Competition is a good thing. But it's best when it's not "head to head". Instead each should have what it's best at.