From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>
Cc: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>,
Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim.kuvyrkov@linaro.org>,
"Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal for the transition timetable for the move to GIT
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 21:19:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191226211916.GA116941@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <or4kxm26ln.fsf@livre.home>
Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>:
> I don't see that it does (help). Incremental conversion of a missed
> branch should include the very same parent links that the conversion of
> the entire repo would, just linking to the proper commits in the adopted
> conversion. git-svn can do that incrementally, after the fact; I'm not
> sure whether either conversion tool we're contemplating does, but being
> able to undertake such recovery seems like a desirable feature to me.
It's all in what you have in the lift script. Reposurgeon can do any kind
of branch surgery you want, and that can be added to the conversion pipeline
and replicated every time.
> >From what I read, he's doing verifications against SVN. What I'm
> suggesting, at this final stage, is for us to do verify one git
> converted repo against the other.
There are no tools for that, and probably won't be unless somebody
revives repodiffer. There isn't a lot of time left in the schedule for
that, and I have my hands full fixing other glitches. (Minor issues
about parsing ChangeLogs and generated .gitignores; the serious
problems are well behind us at this point.)
> Maxim appears to be doing so and finding (easy-to-fix) problems in the
> reposurgeon conversion; it would be nice for reposurgeon folks to
> reciprocate and maybe even point out problems in the gcc-pretty
> conversion, if they can find any, otherwise the allegations of
> unsuitability of the tools would have to be taken on blind faith.
Joseph has already made the call to go with a reposurgeon-based
conversion for reasons he explained in detail on this list. Given
that, it really doesn't make any sense for me to do any of what
you're proposing with time I could use working on Joseph's RFEs
instead.
If you're concerned about the quality of reposurgeon's conversion,
you'd be a good person to work on a comparison tool. Should I email you
a copy of the repodiffer code as it last existed in my repository?
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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2019-09-17 12:02 Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-17 12:24 ` Richard Biener
2019-09-17 13:50 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-17 16:35 ` Joseph Myers
2019-09-17 17:51 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-17 16:33 ` Joseph Myers
2019-09-19 12:04 ` Janne Blomqvist
2019-09-19 14:43 ` Damian Rouson
2019-09-19 15:30 ` Janne Blomqvist
2019-10-25 14:10 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-10-25 16:32 ` Jeff Law
2019-09-19 15:30 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-19 15:49 ` Damian Rouson
2019-09-19 15:35 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-06 14:44 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-06 17:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-06 17:39 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-06 19:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-06 20:43 ` Sandra Loosemore
2019-12-07 2:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-09 18:19 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-09 18:40 ` Bernd Schmidt
2019-12-09 20:45 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-09 22:12 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-09 19:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-11 14:40 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-11 15:03 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-11 15:19 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-11 15:21 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-11 15:36 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-11 16:02 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-11 17:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 2:19 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-11 15:30 ` Dennis Luehring
2019-12-11 15:36 ` Richard Earnshaw
2019-12-11 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-06 20:49 ` Bernd Schmidt
2019-12-16 9:53 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-16 11:29 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 12:43 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-16 13:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 13:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 14:05 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 14:13 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 15:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 16:36 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 17:40 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-25 8:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-25 12:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-25 12:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-25 14:16 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-25 18:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-25 19:18 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-26 6:09 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-26 11:04 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 11:17 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-12-26 12:10 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 16:11 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-26 16:58 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 18:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-12-26 18:59 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 11:21 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-27 11:33 ` Andrew Pinski
2019-12-27 13:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-27 11:35 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 12:37 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-28 2:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-28 11:23 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-28 12:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-28 17:11 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-28 20:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 1:45 ` Julien "FrnchFrgg" Rivaud
2019-12-29 10:41 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 11:02 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-29 11:47 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 13:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 13:51 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 12:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 16:32 ` Richard Earnshaw
2019-12-29 16:37 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 11:42 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 13:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 13:48 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 15:01 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 17:31 ` Ian Lance Taylor via gcc
2019-12-30 0:31 ` Julien "FrnchFrgg" Rivaud
2019-12-29 21:31 ` Thomas Koenig
2019-12-29 23:57 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-27 13:29 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-26 20:31 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-27 1:32 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 10:14 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-28 1:55 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-29 18:31 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-29 18:55 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-29 22:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-29 23:00 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-29 23:13 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-30 15:36 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-30 22:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-30 22:58 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-31 0:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-31 12:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-31 3:09 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-29 22:24 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-30 0:18 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-30 0:44 ` Julien "FrnchFrgg" Rivaud
2019-12-30 12:39 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-30 13:01 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-30 15:31 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-30 15:49 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-30 16:08 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-02 2:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2020-01-02 10:58 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-08 20:46 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-08 22:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2020-01-08 23:34 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-09 2:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-09 12:12 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-09 14:01 ` Eric S. Raymond
2020-01-11 11:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-10 7:33 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-10 9:49 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-10 11:38 ` Richard Biener
2020-01-10 12:09 ` Iain Sandoe
2020-01-10 13:11 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-10 12:53 ` Nathan Sidwell
2020-01-10 14:13 ` Martin Liška
2020-01-11 11:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-11 11:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-10 13:31 ` Bernd Schmidt
2020-01-10 15:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2020-01-10 15:09 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-10 15:16 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-10 15:33 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-11 7:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2020-01-09 5:07 ` Jeff Law
2020-01-09 12:30 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-10 15:27 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-11 7:06 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2020-01-14 8:21 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-26 22:33 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 19:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-26 20:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-26 20:28 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 12:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-27 12:21 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-28 2:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-26 21:19 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2019-12-25 12:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-25 14:13 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-29 16:47 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-29 22:42 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 16:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 16:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 16:04 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 16:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 16:47 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-31 13:43 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-31 14:13 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-31 17:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 13:56 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 14:17 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-16 16:29 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 13:53 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 16:39 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 17:57 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-16 16:55 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 17:08 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 19:15 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 21:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 22:14 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 22:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 23:26 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 23:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 18:07 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-18 18:24 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 0:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 19:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-18 20:43 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-20 16:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-19 2:34 ` Unix philosopy vs. poor semantic locality Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-19 3:16 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 5:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-19 0:46 ` Proposal for the transition timetable for the move to GIT Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 23:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 23:18 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 23:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 17:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 13:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-19 17:04 ` Paul Koning
2019-10-25 14:02 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-20 15:49 ` Jeff Law
2019-09-21 9:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-21 9:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-09-21 9:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-21 10:04 ` Andreas Schwab
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