From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Joseph Myers <jsm@polyomino.org.uk>
Cc: Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim.kuvyrkov@linaro.org>,
GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Alexandre Oliva <oliva@gnu.org>, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>,
"Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
frnchfrgg@free.fr
Subject: Re: Proposal for the transition timetable for the move to GIT
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:47:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191229224740.GB51787@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1912291839190.18291@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>
Joseph Myers <jsm@polyomino.org.uk>:
> The case you mention is one where there was a merge to a branch not from
> its immediate parent but from an indirect parent. I don't think it would
> be hard to support detecting such merges in reposurgeon.
We're working on it.
> This is an example where the originally added ChangeLog entry was
> malformed (had the date in the form "2004-0630"), so a conservatively safe
> approach was taken of using the committer rather than trying to guess what
> a malformed ChangeLog entry means and risk extracting nonsense.
>
> I expect other cases are being similarly careful in cases where there was
> a malformed ChangeLog entry or a commit edited ChangeLog entries by other
> authors so leaving its single-author nature ambiguous. Parsing
> ChangeLogs, especially where malformed entries are involved, is inherently
> a heuristic matter.
As Joseph says, one of reposurgeon's design principles is "First, do no harm."
And yes, changelogs are full of malformations and junk like this. I
saw and dealt with a lifetime's worth while converting the Emacs
history from bzr to git.
If you try to interpret any random garbage in, you will assuredly
get garbage out when you least expect it. Often the cost of this
sort of mistake is not fully realized until it is far too late
for correction. This is *why* reposurgeon is conservative.
The correct thing for reposurgeon to do is flag unparseable entry
headers for human intervention, and as of today it does that.
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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2019-09-17 12:02 Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-17 12:24 ` Richard Biener
2019-09-17 13:50 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-17 16:35 ` Joseph Myers
2019-09-17 17:51 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-17 16:33 ` Joseph Myers
2019-09-19 12:04 ` Janne Blomqvist
2019-09-19 14:43 ` Damian Rouson
2019-09-19 15:30 ` Janne Blomqvist
2019-10-25 14:10 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-10-25 16:32 ` Jeff Law
2019-09-19 15:30 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-19 15:49 ` Damian Rouson
2019-09-19 15:35 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-06 14:44 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-06 17:21 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-06 17:39 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-06 19:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-06 20:43 ` Sandra Loosemore
2019-12-07 2:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-09 18:19 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-09 18:40 ` Bernd Schmidt
2019-12-09 20:45 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-09 22:12 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-09 19:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-11 14:40 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-11 15:03 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-11 15:19 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-11 15:21 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-11 15:36 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-11 16:02 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-12-11 17:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 2:19 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-11 15:30 ` Dennis Luehring
2019-12-11 15:36 ` Richard Earnshaw
2019-12-11 17:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-06 20:49 ` Bernd Schmidt
2019-12-16 9:53 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-16 11:29 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 12:43 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-16 13:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 13:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 14:05 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 14:13 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 15:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 16:36 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 17:40 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-25 8:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-25 12:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-25 12:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-25 14:16 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-25 18:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-25 19:18 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-26 6:09 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-26 11:04 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 11:17 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-12-26 12:10 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 16:11 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-26 16:58 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 18:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-12-26 18:59 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 11:21 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-27 11:33 ` Andrew Pinski
2019-12-27 13:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-27 11:35 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 12:37 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-28 2:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-28 11:23 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-28 12:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-28 17:11 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-28 20:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 1:45 ` Julien "FrnchFrgg" Rivaud
2019-12-29 10:41 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 11:02 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-29 11:47 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 13:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 13:51 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 12:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 16:32 ` Richard Earnshaw
2019-12-29 16:37 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 11:42 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 13:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 13:48 ` Julien '_FrnchFrgg_' RIVAUD
2019-12-29 15:01 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-29 17:31 ` Ian Lance Taylor via gcc
2019-12-30 0:31 ` Julien "FrnchFrgg" Rivaud
2019-12-29 21:31 ` Thomas Koenig
2019-12-29 23:57 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-27 13:29 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-26 20:31 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-27 1:32 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 10:14 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-28 1:55 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-29 18:31 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-29 18:55 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-29 22:47 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2019-12-29 23:00 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-29 23:13 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-30 15:36 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-30 22:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-30 22:58 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-31 0:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-31 12:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-31 3:09 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-29 22:24 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-30 0:18 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-30 0:44 ` Julien "FrnchFrgg" Rivaud
2019-12-30 12:39 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-30 13:01 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-30 15:31 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-30 15:49 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2019-12-30 16:08 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-02 2:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2020-01-02 10:58 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-08 20:46 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-08 22:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2020-01-08 23:34 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-09 2:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-09 12:12 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-09 14:01 ` Eric S. Raymond
2020-01-11 11:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-10 7:33 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-10 9:49 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-01-10 11:38 ` Richard Biener
2020-01-10 12:09 ` Iain Sandoe
2020-01-10 13:11 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-10 12:53 ` Nathan Sidwell
2020-01-10 14:13 ` Martin Liška
2020-01-11 11:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-11 11:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-10 13:31 ` Bernd Schmidt
2020-01-10 15:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2020-01-10 15:09 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-10 15:16 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-10 15:33 ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2020-01-11 7:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2020-01-09 5:07 ` Jeff Law
2020-01-09 12:30 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-10 15:27 ` Joseph Myers
2020-01-11 7:06 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2020-01-14 8:21 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-26 22:33 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-26 19:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-26 20:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-26 20:28 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-27 12:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-12-27 12:21 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-28 2:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-26 21:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-25 12:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-25 14:13 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-29 16:47 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-29 22:42 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 16:27 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 16:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 16:04 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 16:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 16:47 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-31 13:43 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-31 14:13 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-12-31 17:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 13:56 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 14:17 ` Mark Wielaard
2019-12-16 16:29 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 13:53 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 16:39 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 17:57 ` Richard Biener
2019-12-16 16:55 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 17:08 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 19:15 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 21:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 22:14 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-16 22:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 23:26 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 23:44 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 18:07 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-18 18:24 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 0:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 19:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-18 20:43 ` Jeff Law
2019-12-20 16:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-19 2:34 ` Unix philosopy vs. poor semantic locality Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-19 3:16 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-19 5:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-19 0:46 ` Proposal for the transition timetable for the move to GIT Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 23:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-16 23:18 ` Joseph Myers
2019-12-16 23:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2019-12-18 17:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-16 13:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-19 17:04 ` Paul Koning
2019-10-25 14:02 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2019-09-20 15:49 ` Jeff Law
2019-09-21 9:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-21 9:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-09-21 9:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-21 10:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-09-21 9:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
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