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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Subject: Re: typeof and operands in named address spaces
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 18:47:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201112004759.GO2672@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201110075742.GT2594@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 08:57:42AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 11:50:15AM -0800, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 11:46 AM Segher Boessenkool
> > <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 01:47:13PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > C in general does not provide means to strip qualifiers.
> > >
> > > Most ways you can try to use the result are undefined behaviour, even.
> > 
> > Yes, removing `const` from a `const` declared variable (via cast) then
> > expecting to use the result is a great way to have clang omit the use
> > from the final program.  This has bitten us in the past getting MIPS
> > support up and running, and one of the MTK gfx drivers.
> 
> Stripping const to delcare another variable is useful though. Sure C has
> sharp edges, esp. if you cast stuff, but since when did that stop anyone
> ;-)

My point is that removing most qualifiers usually is a problem, so
before doing this, we should think if it is such a good plan, whether
there is a safer / saner solution, etc.


Segher

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-12  0:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 18:31 Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05  7:26 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-05  8:56   ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05  9:36     ` Alexander Monakov
2020-11-05 10:33       ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05 11:38         ` Alexander Monakov
2020-11-05 12:00           ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05 12:14             ` Alexander Monakov
2020-11-05 12:24               ` Richard Biener
2020-11-05 12:32                 ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05 12:35                   ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05 13:22                     ` Alexander Monakov
2020-11-05 13:39                       ` Alexander Monakov
2020-11-05 13:46                         ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05 12:26               ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05 15:27                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-05 11:03       ` Uros Bizjak
2020-11-05  9:45     ` Richard Biener
2020-11-05  9:51       ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-11-09 12:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-09 19:38   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-11-09 19:50     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-10  7:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-10 18:42         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-11-10 20:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-12  0:40             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-11-12  0:47         ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2020-11-10  7:52     ` Peter Zijlstra

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