From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from 3.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (3.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net [46.105.44.175]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C16C73858C27 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 00:04:33 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org C16C73858C27 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=tesio.it Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=giacomo@tesio.it Received: from player711.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.108.16.222]) by mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80285282BA0 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 02:04:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tesio.it (93-41-149-224.ip82.fastwebnet.it [93.41.149.224]) (Authenticated sender: giacomo@tesio.it) by player711.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B175C1C7BF7CF; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 00:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-101G004e0c2c5e2-67d2-4e7e-9263-ce736a3d2ff8, CC3AD632E7054A477D8337B43355360085403F60) smtp.auth=giacomo@tesio.it X-OVh-ClientIp: 93.41.149.224 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 02:04:15 +0200 From: Giacomo Tesio To: Jeff Law Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: RMS removed from the GCC Steering Committee (was: Remove RMS...) Message-ID: <20210401020415.00002c77@tesio.it> In-Reply-To: References: <20210401011133.00001e9c@tesio.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 1013028445016026855 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudeifedgvdekucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfdpvefjgfevmfevgfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecuhedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkjghfgggtgfesthejredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepifhirggtohhmohcuvfgvshhiohcuoehgihgrtghomhhosehtvghsihhordhitheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgfeikeegleekveehtdeiveeuveevvdekveekgedvvddvgefhtedujedtteegieegnecukfhppedtrddtrddtrddtpdelfedrgedurddugeelrddvvdegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpqdhouhhtpdhhvghlohepphhlrgihvghrjeduuddrhhgrrdhovhhhrdhnvghtpdhinhgvtheptddrtddrtddrtddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehgihgrtghomhhosehtvghsihhordhithdprhgtphhtthhopehgtggtsehgtggtrdhgnhhurdhorhhg X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:04:35 -0000 Hi Jeff, thanks for fixing your affiliation, but let me note that it doesn't change a dime for the geopolitical-diversity issue that affects GCC since before RMS joined the Steering Committee. On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:35:36 -0600 Jeff Law wrote: > > To me, and to billions of people, this shows a huge cultural bias. > > It's more historical than anything. Power is always justified through history and it always affects history. > We are looking at how to increase diversity on the committee, but > that's a separate and distinct issue from removal of RMS. Oh well, sure, but luckily the solution is just as fast and easy as it was to remove RMS: pick just one person for each nationality and remove the others. While the GCC Steering Committee won't still be representative of all nationalities that contributed and will contribute to GCC, you instantly reduce the huge imbalance in the representation of the USA interests. I'm sure you can see how this is way more urgent than removing RMS, since, according to the other members of the SC, he was pretty inactive and ineffective anyway. Once you have removed the exceeding member from the page (and the SC, obviously) you will be able to identify new member from others countries. But please, HURRY UP! RMS was just a potential treat to GCC image, but these power imbalances on such a fundamental piece of sofware pose (and posed) a way more severe issue and on a global scale! People all over the world, whatever their country, should be sure to be treated fairly and equally by the GCC leaders even if they want to contribute something that does not match the culture or interests you represent. Giacomo