From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>
Cc: Richard Kenner <kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:21:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210414152112.GD4138043@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4877580-04af-fce5-aee9-3b064d496920@acm.org>
Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>:
> The choice to /not/ have a policy for ejecting jerks has serious costs. One
> of those costs is the kind of rancorous dispute that has been
> burning like a brushfire on this list the last few weeks.
The situation isn't that symmetrical. The brushfire didn't happen when it
was a norm here that off-list behavior was not the list's business. It
only came about when some people decided that norm should no longer apply.
I'm not judging RMS's behavior (or anyone else's) one way or
another. I am simply pointing out that there is a Schelling point in
possible community norms that is well expressed as "you shall judge by
the code alone". This list is not full of contention from affirming
that norm, but from some peoples' attempt to repudiate it.
(For those of you unfamilar with the concept, a Schelling point is
one of natural equilibrium in a two- or molti-player game, such that
when you move away from it all parties' decision costs go way up.)
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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2021-04-14 12:27 Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 13:18 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 13:28 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-14 13:38 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 13:45 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 14:49 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-14 14:57 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-14 15:10 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:08 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-14 15:25 ` Didier Kryn
2021-04-14 17:09 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 18:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 14:08 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 15:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-14 16:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 16:08 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 20:39 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 20:49 ` Christopher Jefferson
2021-04-14 20:49 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-14 21:38 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 0:13 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 0:40 ` Chris Punches
2021-04-14 22:40 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 23:19 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 23:28 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 23:36 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 23:39 ` Frosku
2021-04-15 0:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-22 22:04 ` Soul Studios
2021-04-15 14:00 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 15:17 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 15:27 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 19:21 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 19:45 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 20:02 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 20:03 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-15 20:58 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 21:24 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-14 21:40 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 21:57 ` Patrick McGehearty
2021-04-15 6:00 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-15 16:18 ` Gabriel Ravier
2021-04-14 14:23 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-14 14:54 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 14:57 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:18 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-14 15:21 ` Frosku
2021-04-14 15:21 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2021-04-14 18:27 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-14 20:02 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 13:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 17:31 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 19:05 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 19:48 ` Gcc as callable libraries (was: removing toxic emailers) Thomas Koenig
2021-04-15 21:19 ` David Edelsohn
2021-04-15 21:31 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 21:51 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 19:27 ` removing toxic emailers Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 20:26 ` Chris Punches
2021-04-15 20:51 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-15 21:13 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 23:11 ` Frosku
2021-04-15 23:36 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 23:44 ` Frosku
2021-04-15 23:52 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-15 23:55 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 0:00 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-15 23:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16 0:04 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 0:16 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-16 0:41 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 1:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 0:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 9:09 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2021-04-17 11:56 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 14:41 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 18:11 ` David Brown
2021-04-18 1:39 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-18 13:10 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-18 14:51 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-18 15:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-18 18:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-18 19:13 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-18 20:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-19 0:54 ` Frosku
2021-04-18 19:06 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-18 20:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-19 1:10 ` Frosku
2021-04-19 2:42 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-19 6:29 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-19 6:31 ` Frosku
2021-04-19 15:06 ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-04-19 16:57 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-20 3:47 ` Frosku
2021-04-20 5:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-20 7:53 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-20 14:03 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-20 14:15 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-20 14:22 ` David Brown
2021-04-20 14:30 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-18 11:12 ` identifying toxic emailers (was: removing toxic emailers) Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-18 12:42 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-18 13:23 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 13:57 ` removing toxic emailers Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 21:13 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-15 23:21 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-04-15 22:09 ` Christopher Jefferson
2021-04-15 22:40 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-15 23:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16 0:20 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 2:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 3:02 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 3:19 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 4:07 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 16:28 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-16 23:15 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 0:43 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 4:05 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-17 4:08 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 5:04 ` Andrew Pinski
2021-04-17 9:08 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 9:41 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 15:07 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 5:35 ` Jeff Law
[not found] ` <e324569ac358127174e1ba08337166c4d9494883.camel@silogroup.org>
2021-04-17 7:53 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 8:27 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17 8:36 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 9:04 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17 9:08 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-17 9:29 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 9:25 ` Frosku
2021-04-17 14:21 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 12:41 ` Liu Hao
2021-04-17 15:16 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-17 9:29 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-17 9:36 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 8:54 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-16 10:02 ` Thomas Koenig
[not found] ` <CAJWNc-7q+t1njvEow=a6QPD4uWA7htEZn=koRBNd3ziO4y8A-g@mail.gmail.com>
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2021-04-16 14:42 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-04-16 15:14 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-16 17:31 ` NightStrike
2021-04-16 4:09 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-16 9:39 ` Kalamatee
2021-04-16 9:58 ` Frosku
2021-04-16 16:17 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-04-14 17:32 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 16:52 ` Martin Jambor
2021-04-14 18:19 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-14 18:30 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 18:32 ` Paul Koning
2021-04-14 20:12 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 0:10 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 9:18 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-15 14:25 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-15 10:20 ` Aaron Gyes
2021-04-15 14:31 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-14 23:09 Adrian
2021-04-15 0:18 ` Soul Studios
2021-04-15 14:40 ` Eric S. Raymond
2021-04-15 22:49 ` Frosku
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