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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Cc: Bill Schmidt <wschmidt@linux.ibm.com>,
	fortran@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	Tobias Burnus <tobias@codesourcery.com>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 20:11:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211015181138.GI304296@tucnak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c0d1a0d-457f-68d7-94f3-420bc2c33c69@netcologne.de>

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 08:05:38PM +0200, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> > with -mabi=ibmlongdouble, I see 31 and 291, while with -mabi=ieeelongdouble
> > 33 and 4931.  The 0.0_8 precision/range values are 15 and 307, so neither
> > precision of C long double if it is double-double nor range matches anything.
> > If we do implement double-double support, I think KIND=15 would be better
> > than KIND=17, it is true that double-double has for certain numbers much
> > higher precision than IEEE quad, but the precision depends on the numbers
> > and most of the time is smaller, the range is always smaller.  And
> > the PRECISION/RANGE intrinsic numbers are also both smaller.
> 
> There is one potential problem: selected_real_kind.
> 
> The standard says about that...
> 
> # If more than one kind type parameter value meets the criteria, the
> # value returned is the one with the smallest decimal precision, unless
> # there are several such values, in which case the smallest of these
> # kind values is returned
> 
> So, selected_real_kind(25) would yield double double, and we would
> have to violate the standard there if we wanted people to have
> IEEE QP in that case.

That would be true if some kind exist for double double, whether
it is kind == 15 or kind == 17, no?
Because precision (0.0_double_double_kind) < precision (0.0_ieee_quad_kind)
so the "smallest of the kind values" doesn't trigger.

	Jakub


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-15 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 10:07 Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 11:24 ` Richard Biener
2021-10-04 11:36   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 12:31     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 14:14 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 16:47   ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-04 18:33   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-04 19:24     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-05 17:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-14 19:39         ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15  0:26           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-05 20:16   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-05 21:54     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06  6:59       ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-06 15:17         ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:41           ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:07             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 16:34               ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:59                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:07                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 17:50                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:30                       ` Peter Bergner
2021-10-06 17:13                 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 18:39                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:42                     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 20:57                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 21:55                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 22:03                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-08 17:53                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-11 20:11                             ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-15  0:16                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:42           ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-06 16:19             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:38               ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-07  3:42           ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-08 21:10             ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-07  9:48         ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-07  9:56           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-07 10:01             ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 12:43               ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-05 21:53   ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-10-07  3:35 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07  6:08   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-07  9:40     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 15:24     ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 15:33       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-08  6:35         ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08  7:20           ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 16:26             ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 19:11               ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 22:55                 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 23:18                   ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09  9:11                     ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-09  9:19                       ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09  9:25                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-09  7:44                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-10 16:14                     ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-15 13:50 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 14:20   ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:05     ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 18:11       ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2021-10-15 18:58         ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 22:24     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-15 22:36   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-18 19:02   ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-28  3:10 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-29  3:36 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (work in progress patches) Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 19:07   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-29 21:06     ` Michael Meissner
2021-11-01 15:56       ` Bill Schmidt
2021-11-02 15:40         ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-30  0:16 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch) Michael Meissner
2021-10-30  9:30   ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-30 10:03     ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-30 10:31       ` Thomas Koenig

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