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From: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
To: "obrien@FreeBSD.org" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>, "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Gerald Pfeifer <pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject: Re: C++ binary compatibility between GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.2?
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 15:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26270000.1025904927@gandalf.codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020705142838.C89951@dragon.nuxi.com>



--On Friday, July 05, 2002 02:28:38 PM -0700 David O'Brien 
<obrien@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:51:17PM -0700, Mark Mitchell wrote:
>> In any case, GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.2 will not be 100% binary compatible
>> with respect to the C++ ABI.
>>
>> I can't say what that might mean as a distributor.
>
> I can -- MAJOR pain and difficulty.  It would probably prevent FreeBSD
> using GCC 3.2 in our 5.1 and later 5.x releases.  That means 1-2 years
> before the compiler can be upgraded for our users.
>
> I urge you as strongly as I can to back port (#define wrap if needed) the
> changes so that GCC 3.1.1 can be built to be 100% C++ ABI compatible with
> GCC 3.2.  FreeBSD can much more easily accept breakage between 3.1[.0]
> and 3.1.1, than between 3.1.1 and 3.2[.0] as we are still developing 5.0
> and can take ABI hits right now.

It's not the job of the FSF maintainers to do this.

If FreeBSD wants to backport patches, for its version, that's fine.
My goal, as RM, is for FSF users to be able to go from 3.1 to 3.1.1
without difficulty.

(The point of the minor releases is to fix critical bugs.)

We can't possibly know when we release 3.1.1 -- soon -- what changes may
or not be in 3.2 -- which is still months away.

I, of all people, appreciate the importance of binary compatibility
in C++.  There's really very little we can do, other than trying to
find and fix all the problems.

--
Mark Mitchell                   mark@codesourcery.com
CodeSourcery, LLC               http://www.codesourcery.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-05 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-04  9:55 Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-04 10:23 ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 14:17 ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:22   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-05 14:28     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:53       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:08         ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  5:34           ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:40             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  6:40               ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-07-06  7:20                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:53                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  8:54                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06 11:04                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-07-06  7:42                 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:08                   ` Jeff Law
2002-07-06 11:10                     ` Gwenole Beauchesne
2002-07-06  6:19         ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 14:46   ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:02     ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 15:12       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:20         ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 16:11           ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 16:12             ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-05 16:35               ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 22:18               ` Geoff Keating
2002-07-07 23:14               ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 15:02     ` Mark Mitchell [this message]
2002-07-06  6:28       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2002-07-06  4:56     ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:44       ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-07-06  7:35         ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:44         ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 22:35 ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-06  5:40 ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-07-06  6:40   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:49     ` Andreas Jaeger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-10  4:24 Iain McClatchie
2002-07-08 10:09 Ben Woodhead
2002-07-08  9:02 Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08 13:03 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-10  7:32 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12  3:09 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12 13:50 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08  3:42 Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08  4:07 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-08  6:28 ` Joern Rennecke
2002-07-08 13:05 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-10  7:33 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12  4:27 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12 13:53 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-06 15:47 Joern Rennecke
2002-07-06 16:09 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-07  8:03   ` Joern Rennecke
     [not found] <3900A36C.18989ED4@apple.com>
2000-04-21 17:17 ` [patch] beginnings of the macro rewrite Horst von Brand
2000-04-22 10:33   ` Zack Weinberg
2000-04-22 20:13     ` Marc Espie
2000-04-22 20:20     ` Neil Booth
2000-04-24  8:57     ` Michael Meissner
2000-04-24 17:54       ` Russ Allbery
2000-04-27 15:54     ` Philipp Thomas
2000-04-27 17:32       ` Joe Buck
2000-04-24 23:38   ` Martin Kahlert

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