From: "Stefan Kanthak" <stefan.kanthak@nexgo.de>
To: "Jonathan Wakely" <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>, <gcc@gnu.org>,
"Andrew Pinski" <pinskia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Will GCC eventually support SSE2 or SSE4.1?
Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 14:42:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2D3BCE2E82544ACD95352C72BE944C59@H270> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH6eHdRK5s8BkUWUXgv2Q+SzViy=nkShry9qRYkfTjXbEAY=7Q@mail.gmail.com>
"Jonathan Wakely" <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 13:23, Stefan Kanthak <stefan.kanthak@nexgo.de> wrote:
>>
>> "Jonathan Wakely" <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 12:42, Stefan Kanthak wrote:
>> >> Why does the documentation FAIL to specify that CPU features given by
>> >> -m* override -m32 or enables them in ADDITION to those enabled by -march=?
>> >
>> > Because it's obvious. If you ask for sse2 you get it.
>>
>> ARGH! The documentation for -m32 contradicts
>>
>> | -m32
>> ...
>> | The -m32 option sets int, long, and pointer types to 32 bits, and
>> | generates code that runs on any i386 system.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> > I find it very SURPRISING that you're only just learning the basics of
>> > how to use gcc NOW, after YELLING about all the OUCH.
>>
>> I'm NOT surprised that you don't grok it!
>>
>> gcc -msse4.1 -m32 -march=core2 ...
>>
>> Which -m* options win here?
>> Do -m32 or -march=core2 override -msse4.1?
>
> No, because -m32 says to generate code for the 32-bit model, it
> doesn't select an instruction set.
I underlined the relevant part, EXTRA FOR YOU!
Bonus question: does every 32-bit i386 system support SSE instructions?
> A multilib x86_64 compiler has a default 64-bit arch and a default
> 32-bit arch. If you don't configure GCC with --with-arch-32 and/or
> --with-arch-64 then you get -march=x86-64 for both 32-bit and 64-bit.
> Using -m32 without -march will use the default 32-bit arch, which is
> probably x86-64. Using -m32 with any explicit -march will override the
> default, and use the one you specified.
This is NOT what the underlined part of the documentation says!
> And I already said that -march selects the base instruction set, and
> then -msse4.1 adds to that, enabling sse4.1 as well.
>
> I said:
>
> -march enables the instructions listed for the relevant cpu family,
> then using -mxxx or -mno-xxx adds or removes particular instruction
> sets from the ones enabled by -march.
"Then" means after, not before!
Guess why I asked EXPLICITLY for the preferences?!
> So -march=core2 selects the instruction sets listed in the docs, and
> then -msse4.1 adds to that. I don't know how to say it more clearly.
That's your problem! Set some sequence points...
> All this could have been explained easily and without conflict if
> you'd use the right mailing list in the first place and asked how
> things work, instead of storming in acting like a clown and being
> rude.
>
> "Will GCC eventually support SSE2 or SSE4.1?" is confrontational, and
> makes you look dumb. And it's just got worse since then.
I could have added PROPERLY, because that's where it CLEARLY fails, as
shown by the generated unoptimised code.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-26 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-26 6:46 Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 7:00 ` Andrew Pinski
2023-05-26 7:30 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 7:58 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 8:16 ` Sam James
2023-05-26 8:28 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 8:59 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 9:22 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-05-26 11:28 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 11:42 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 12:03 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 12:16 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 12:22 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 13:00 ` Mark Wielaard
2023-05-26 12:23 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 11:36 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 11:45 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 12:19 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 12:30 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 12:42 ` Stefan Kanthak [this message]
2023-05-26 13:33 ` Nicholas Vinson
2023-05-26 12:37 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-05-26 13:49 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 14:07 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 14:18 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-05-26 14:41 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 14:55 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 15:07 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 14:26 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 14:58 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 15:49 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-26 16:44 ` David Brown
2023-05-27 18:16 ` Will GCC eventually support correct code compilation? Dave Blanchard
2023-05-27 18:59 ` Jason Merrill
2023-05-28 11:50 ` David Brown
2023-05-26 9:22 ` Will GCC eventually support SSE2 or SSE4.1? Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 8:12 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2023-05-26 9:51 ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-05-26 11:34 ` Nicholas Vinson
2023-05-26 15:10 ` LIU Hao
2023-05-26 15:40 ` Stefan Kanthak
2023-05-27 18:20 ` LIU Hao
2023-05-27 18:49 ` Stefan Kanthak
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