From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: Georg-Johann Lay <avr@gjlay.de>,
Paul Koning <paulkoning@comcast.net>,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to avoid some built-in expansions in gcc?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 19:43:40 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e3fd315-fd89-10ad-f375-cdf4d032fbe4@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B9AC78CE-73CD-4CB9-8841-9B0AA162247D@gmail.com>
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Hello,
On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Richard Biener wrote:
> >> A pragmatic solution might be a new target hook, indicating a specified
> >> builtin is not to be folded into an open-coded form.
> >
> > Well, that's what the mechanism behind -fno-builtin-foobar is supposed to
> > be IMHO. Hopefully the newly added additional mechanism using optabs and
> > ifns (instead of builtins) heeds it.
>
> -fno-builtin makes GCC not know semantics of the functions called
Hmm, true. Not expanding inline is orthogonal strictly speaking ...
> which is worse for optimization than just not inline expanding it.
... but on AVR expanding inline is probably worse than that lost
knowledge. So yeah, ideally we would devise a (simple/reasonable) way to
at least disable inline expansion, without making it non-builtin.
(Well, and without reverse-recognition of isfinite-like idioms in the
sources. That's orthogonal as well.)
Ciao,
Michael.
>
> Richard
>
> >> A good solution would base this on (size) costs, the perfect solution
> >> would re-discover the builtins late and undo inlining that didn’t turn
> >> out to enable further simplification.
> >>
> >> How is inlined isdigit bad on AVR? Is a call really that cheap
> >> considering possible register spilling around it?
> >
> > On AVR with needing to use 8bit registers to do everything? I'm pretty
> > sure the call is cheaper, yeah :)
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Michael.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-04 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-31 13:52 Georg-Johann Lay
2024-05-31 13:56 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-05-31 14:53 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2024-05-31 14:53 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-05-31 15:00 ` Paul Koning
2024-05-31 15:06 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2024-05-31 15:23 ` Paul Koning
2024-05-31 17:32 ` Richard Biener
2024-05-31 18:56 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2024-05-31 20:12 ` Richard Biener
2024-06-01 15:41 ` Georg-Johann Lay
2024-06-01 17:30 ` Richard Biener
2024-06-04 14:55 ` Michael Matz
2024-06-04 16:43 ` Richard Biener
2024-06-04 17:43 ` Michael Matz [this message]
2024-06-04 17:48 ` Jakub Jelinek
2024-06-05 13:52 ` Michael Matz
2024-06-05 13:33 ` David Brown
2024-06-05 14:08 ` Michael Matz
2024-06-05 14:16 ` Richard Biener
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