From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16300 invoked by alias); 5 Dec 2007 23:35:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16292 invoked by uid 22791); 5 Dec 2007 23:35:50 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp-out.google.com (HELO smtp-out.google.com) (216.239.33.17) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:35:46 +0000 Received: from zps77.corp.google.com (zps77.corp.google.com [172.25.146.77]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id lB5NZa3L003726 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:35:36 GMT Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wra68.prod.google.com [10.54.1.68]) by zps77.corp.google.com with ESMTP id lB5NZYqv028439 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:35:35 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so4628wra for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.203.8 with SMTP id a8mr1017306ybg.1196897734622; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.85.21 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:35:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2fbe2a060712051535l7a9991c9q573106ac6f02a1ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:35:00 -0000 From: "Daniel Berlin" To: "Ben Elliston" Subject: Re: Rant about ChangeLog entries and commit messages Cc: tromey@redhat.com, "Diego Novillo" , "Samuel Tardieu" , gcc@gcc.gnu.org In-Reply-To: <1196896524.12541.3.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2007-12-02-11-05-39+trackit+sam@rfc1149.net> <47543DE8.3010003@google.com> <1196896524.12541.3.camel@localhost> Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2007-12/txt/msg00143.txt.bz2 On Dec 5, 2007 6:15 PM, Ben Elliston wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 09:18 -0700, Tom Tromey wrote: > > > First, continuing to have good quality messages. Right now at the > > very least you get a (semi-) accurate record of what was touched. > > I've seen plenty of ChangeLog-less projects out there than end up with > > commits like "fixed a bug", or even worse. > > Something else that hasn't been raised is that ChangeLogs can be > revised. We often see people making mistakes with their ChangeLog > entries, but since the ChangeLog is versioned, they can revise it. If > you screw up a commit message, it's much harder to fix it (and a purist > might argue that to do so would be destroying revision history). Uh? svn propedit --revision svn:log Hope this helps!