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From: Michael Eager <eager@mvista.com>
To: Falk Hueffner <falk.hueffner@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is this a gcc bug?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A662214.9485A2A9@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wvbubgol.fsf@student.uni-tuebingen.de>

Falk Hueffner wrote:
> 
> Michael Eager <eager@mvista.com> writes:
> 
> > My sugguestion:
> >
> >       undefined behavior:  value of expression using 'x' is undefined
> 
> This would seem to imply that the behaviour is undefined because one
> uses an undefined value. But that's not the case: the standard says
> program behaviour is undefined even if you say x = ++x and never look
> at x again. (At least IIRC.)

It is the result of the expression (including any side effects) which is 
undefined.  An expression has a value, even if you never use it.

There are many constructs with undefined behavior.  Some can be
recognized at compile time; most cannot.  

-- 

Michael Eager
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-17 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-12 18:21 dewar
2001-01-12 18:29 ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-01-12 18:49 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-01-12 18:58 ` Fergus Henderson
2001-01-13 10:34 ` James Dennett
2001-01-16 17:01 ` Michael Eager
2001-01-17  3:21   ` Falk Hueffner
2001-01-17 14:57     ` Michael Eager [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-16 13:01 Is this a GCC bug? Bingfeng Mei
2008-06-16 13:33 ` Bingfeng Mei
2001-01-17 23:30 Is this a gcc bug? Axel Kittenberger
2001-01-16 17:06 dewar
2001-01-14 16:14 dewar
2001-01-14 16:53 ` Dave Korn
2001-01-14  5:31 dewar
2001-01-14 15:51 ` Geoff Keating
2001-01-12 19:15 dewar
2001-01-12 19:29 ` Fergus Henderson
2001-01-12 19:14 dewar
2001-01-12 19:36 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-01-12  1:18 Axel Kittenberger
2001-01-12 18:14 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-01-12 19:11   ` Fergus Henderson
2001-01-13  3:21   ` Richard Earnshaw
2001-01-11 10:38 dewar
2001-01-11 10:30 dewar
2001-01-11 10:05 dewar
2001-01-11 10:00 David Korn
2001-01-11 21:36 ` Andy Walker
2001-01-13 18:45   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-01-14  2:21     ` Geoff Keating
2001-01-11  7:07 dewar
2001-01-11  5:53 dewar
2001-01-11  6:06 ` Bernd Schmidt
2001-01-11  8:40   ` Per Bothner
2001-01-11  9:03     ` Richard Earnshaw
2001-01-11  9:27       ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-01-11  9:33       ` Joe Buck
2001-01-11  9:38         ` Bernd Schmidt
2001-01-11  9:44           ` Richard Earnshaw
2001-01-11 10:57     ` Neil Booth
2001-01-11  5:49 dewar
2001-01-11  3:04 David Korn
2001-01-11  2:11 Uros Bizjak
2001-01-11  3:04 ` Alexandre Oliva

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