From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24098 invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2002 00:49:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 24090 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2002 00:49:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-out2.apple.com) (17.254.0.51) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2002 00:49:04 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (A17-129-100-225.apple.com [17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBG0n3I09213 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:49:02 -0800 Received: from apple.com (vpn-scv-x1-56.apple.com [17.219.193.56]) by scv2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBG0n1Q01527; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:49:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3DFD22BA.9030908@apple.com> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:09:00 -0000 From: Stan Shebs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Momchil Velikov , zack@codesourcery.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: source mgt. requirements solicitation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2002-12/txt/msg00850.txt.bz2 Linus Torvalds wrote: >[...] > > If gcc had less of a restrictive model >for accepting patches, you'd have a lot more random people who would do >them, I bet. > I can assure you that there are lots of random GCC patches and forks out there, some of them drastically divergent from the main version. (I myself have been responsible for a few of them.) Nobody is being stopped from forking GCC and promoting their own versions. A large number of GCC developers have chosen to cooperate more closely on a single tree because we've empirically determined that we get a better quality compiler that way. Choice of source management systems is a minor detail, not a make-or-break issue. >But gcc development not only has the "CVS mentality", it has >the "FSF disease" with the paperwork crap and copyright assignment crap. > If AT&T had come down on GNU in the 80s the way that they did on BSD in the early 90s, you wouldn't have had any software to go with your kernel. RMS is much smarter than you seem to think. Stan