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From: Stan Shebs <shebs@apple.com>
To: Tom Lord <lord@emf.net>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Itching and scratching (Re: source mgt. requirements solicitation)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:46:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DFFB114.7040204@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200212172300.PAA16270@emf.net>

Tom Lord wrote:

>
>	Speaking more generally, the folks that get paid to do free
>	software are the ones who are solving the problems of people
>	with the money.  It's up to us to be clever enough to figure
>	out to solve the specific problems in a way that improves
>	architecture and infrastructure.  That was a key but
>	underappreciated aspect of Cygnus' development contracts; we
>	would always try to go after projects that included
>	infrastructure improvement, but if necessary we would do
>	something that was random but lucrative and use the profits to
>	pay for generic work.
>
>Was it customers who underappreciated that?  or was that a selling
>point?
>
Sometimes it was a selling point, sometimes the concept was too subtle
for the customer to grasp.  In the mid-90s, a good percentage of time
still had to be spent explaining free software, reassuring people that
GCC didn't cause its output to be GPLed, etc.  It was interesting to see
how much variation there was among customers, and also how important it
was to have actual sales people in the process - engineers left to
themselves would rathole on side issues and never get around to the
actual dealmaking.

Stan


  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-17 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-08  7:13 on reputation and lines and putting things places (Re: gcc branches?) Robert Dewar
2002-12-08 14:18 ` source mgt. requirements solicitation Tom Lord
2002-12-08 14:56   ` DJ Delorie
2002-12-08 15:02     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-08 15:45       ` Bruce Stephens
2002-12-08 16:52         ` David S. Miller
2002-12-08 15:11     ` Bruce Stephens
2002-12-08 16:24       ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-12-08 16:47         ` Tom Lord
2002-12-08 22:20           ` Craig Rodrigues
2002-12-08 16:09   ` Phil Edwards
2002-12-08 19:13     ` Zack Weinberg
2002-12-09 10:33       ` Phil Edwards
2002-12-09 11:06       ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-12-09  9:42         ` Zack Weinberg
2002-12-09 11:00           ` Jack Lloyd
2002-12-09 15:10     ` Walter Landry
2002-12-09 15:27       ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-12-09 17:05         ` Walter Landry
2002-12-09 17:10           ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-12-09 18:27             ` Walter Landry
2002-12-09 19:16               ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-12-10  0:27                 ` Zack Weinberg
2002-12-10  0:41                   ` Tom Lord
2002-12-10 12:05                   ` Phil Edwards
2002-12-10 19:44                   ` Mark Mielke
2002-12-10 19:57                     ` David S. Miller
2002-12-10 20:02                       ` Phil Edwards
2002-12-10 23:07                         ` David S. Miller
2002-12-11  6:31                           ` Phil Edwards
2002-12-14 13:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-14 14:06                     ` Tom Lord
2002-12-14 17:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-14 19:45                         ` Tom Lord
2002-12-14 14:41                     ` Neil Booth
2002-12-14 15:47                       ` Zack Weinberg
2002-12-14 15:33                     ` Momchil Velikov
2002-12-14 16:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-15  3:59                         ` Momchil Velikov
2002-12-15  8:26                         ` Momchil Velikov
2002-12-15 12:02                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-15 14:16                             ` Momchil Velikov
2002-12-15 15:20                               ` Pop Sébastian
2002-12-15 16:09                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-15 16:49                                   ` Bruce Stephens
2002-12-15 16:59                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-15 18:10                                       ` Bruce Stephens
2002-12-16  8:32                                       ` Diego Novillo
2002-12-17  3:36                                         ` Pop Sébastian
2002-12-17 13:14                                           ` Tom Lord
2002-12-17 15:28                                             ` Itching and scratching (Re: source mgt. requirements solicitation) Stan Shebs
2002-12-17 16:07                                               ` Tom Lord
2002-12-17 15:46                                                 ` Stan Shebs [this message]
2002-12-16 17:22                                   ` source mgt. requirements solicitation Mike Stump
2002-12-15 17:09                         ` Stan Shebs
2002-12-09 17:50           ` Zack Weinberg
2002-12-11  1:11         ` Branko Čibej
2002-12-08 18:32   ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-12-11  2:48     ` Branko Čibej
2002-12-18 21:44 Itching and scratching (Re: source mgt. requirements solicitation) Robert Dewar

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