From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out2.suse.de (smtp-out2.suse.de [195.135.220.29]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A46003855023; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:34:12 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org A46003855023 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.cz Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=suse.cz Received: from imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-521) server-digest SHA512) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-out2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A22981FFA3; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:34:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.cz; s=susede2_rsa; t=1626100451; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IoC5yuxQKM7UiH0LlAOUBh/dVKPWL80sE61pSBI/xOM=; b=dZ2BlFOOtH3sPWYkL4krN575h2T4aNLixhArwHjkyGKk4rpfV36keS5d3oia4iah4Sg/O8 ZD9cAH5xYGm4p6w9m0ThQ7Y2GhazA99q0qMh+nfeKuxvpxhdn4GKdq+6pyuythsX2kZT1p oH1VcditKN3Ql3ZcdTudBBLdC74GRP8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.cz; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1626100451; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IoC5yuxQKM7UiH0LlAOUBh/dVKPWL80sE61pSBI/xOM=; b=kkmYfNp3eysDelm3vfXQiICNx6Jg8P6tyt549eYZ6uheXpIUo1f0p1gSLIEFFM632z6qN2 A76dhrQ7R9XFmCBA== Received: from imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-521) server-digest SHA512) (No client certificate requested) by imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7548413BAF; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([192.168.254.65]) by imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de with ESMTPSA id 8Z6zG+NS7GDefQAAMHmgww (envelope-from ); Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:34:11 +0000 Subject: Re: Benefits of using Sphinx documentation format To: Eli Zaretskii , Jonathan Wakely Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, joseph@codesourcery.com References: <1446990946.2994.192.camel@surprise> <5ffe3e32-ece0-a1b4-1fcf-e35177fa80b5@suse.cz> <87489d9a-44e2-411c-3f3a-534d07e78b95@suse.cz> <0866a0ea-c846-ea5e-ac7a-d1c8f106cc45@suse.cz> <5bb9a10d-f3b9-f16a-7430-bbae2d4978e2@suse.cz> <2f60f602-5d88-7674-9620-2172748664c5@suse.cz> <83a6n8obh4.fsf@gnu.org> <57743e51-04d5-ec2e-b684-54f0321ef0bd@suse.cz> <83pmw3mrcg.fsf@gnu.org> <98388e12-3712-575b-9387-45b6ea7ef498@suse.cz> <83v95fabwx.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmvnaa8g.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_Li=c5=a1ka?= Message-ID: <3bf99357-7b22-47a8-a7b9-e83a97b954e3@suse.cz> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:34:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83pmvnaa8g.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:34:13 -0000 On 7/12/21 4:16 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Jonathan Wakely >> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:05:11 +0100 >> Cc: Martin Liška , >> "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" , gcc-patches , >> "Joseph S. Myers" >> >> To be clear, I give links to users frequently (several times a week, >> every week, for decades) and prefer to give them a link to specific >> options. Obviously I link to the online HTML docs rather than telling >> them an 'info' command to run, because most people don't use info >> pages or know how to navigate them. That means I can't provide decent >> links, because the actual option name I'm trying to link to is always >> off the top of the page. This is simply unacceptable IMHO. Texinfo >> must go. > > "Texinfo must go" is one possible conclusion from your description. > But it isn't the only one. An alternative is "the Texinfo source of > the GCC manual must be improved to fix this problem." And yes, this > problem does have a solution in Texinfo. No, the alternative is more powerful output given by Texinfo, in particular more modern HTML pages. Martin