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From: Scott Robert Ladd <coyote@coyotegulch.com>
To: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>
Cc: Roger Sayle <roger@eyesopen.com>, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: GCC viciously beaten by ICC in trig test!
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 04:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40552B24.3060503@coyotegulch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3brmyu8kd.fsf@uniton.integrable-solutions.net>

Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
> In summary,  in order to get decent codes from GCC on Linux, nobody
> should be including standard headers supposed to bring appropriate
> declarations for names used in codes.  Oh well.

And the other solution -- using -D__NO_INLINE__ -- is counterintuitive 
(though effective on my "doit" example, according to a quick test I just 
ran.) Why would someone seeking to generate fast code use a definition 
that disables inline functions?

It appears that two generalized, portable solutions (glibc and gcc) 
cancel each other out, resulting in poor code generation.

Perhaps GCC can be modified to automatically use the -D__NO_INLINE__ 
switch on glibc platforms -- although using that switch may not always 
be wise. I compiled one of my "big" applications with -D__NO_INLINE__, 
and it's run-time was reduced substantially -- to ZERO. I'm too tired 
tonight to figure out why; I'll look into it tomorrow.

> In real world, people have to include standard headers in order to get
> appropriate declarations.

Exactly. The provided solution isn't really a solution, given that 
portable code is going to use ANSI standard headers by definition.


-- 
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-15  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-14 23:40 Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-14 23:49 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15  1:47   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  0:11 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15  1:47   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  2:07     ` Daniel Berlin
2004-03-15  2:30       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  2:31         ` Daniel Berlin
2004-03-15  2:38           ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 10:00             ` Sebastian Pop
2004-03-15  0:12 ` GCC beaten by ICC in stupid " Andrew Pinski
2004-03-15  0:32   ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15  1:31   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  2:36   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 11:25   ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 11:31     ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 13:29     ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 13:42       ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 13:51         ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 13:55           ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 14:00             ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 14:05           ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-15 14:13             ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 14:18               ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 14:29                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-03-15 14:28               ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-15  1:55 ` GCC viciously beaten by ICC in " Roger Sayle
2004-03-15  2:22   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2004-03-15 12:05     ` Stelios Xanthakis
2004-03-15 18:22       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2004-03-15  2:41   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  3:05     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 14:47       ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-03-15 17:44         ` Geert Bosch
2004-03-15 17:46           ` Geert Bosch
2004-03-15  2:41   ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-03-15  6:06     ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-03-15  8:57       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15  3:01   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15  4:06     ` Scott Robert Ladd [this message]
2004-03-15  5:15   ` James Morrison
2004-03-15  8:20     ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-15 18:13       ` Joe Buck
2004-03-16 13:31         ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-15  7:42   ` Ranjit Mathew
2004-03-15 19:00   ` Toon Moene
2004-03-15 19:44     ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-03-15  3:19 Stephan T. Lavavej
2004-03-15  3:29 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 12:40   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 12:53     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 13:37       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 15:11     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 16:25       ` Stephan T. Lavavej
2004-03-15 16:40         ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-15 16:46         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 16:56           ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 17:10             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 17:15               ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 17:58                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 16:59           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 17:28             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 17:47               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 17:52               ` Joe Buck
2004-03-15 17:53               ` Phil Edwards
2004-03-15 17:45     ` Joe Buck
2004-03-15 19:50       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-16  1:00     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-03-17  0:07       ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-16 23:12   ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-17  3:00     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 17:42 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-17  0:31 Stephan T. Lavavej
2004-03-17  3:30 ` Ian Lance Taylor

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