From: Toon Moene <toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
To: Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.COM>
Cc: Bradley Lucier <lucier@math.purdue.edu>,
roger@eyesopen.com, gdr@integrable-solutions.net,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org, abraham@dina.kvl.dk, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
laurent@guerby.net, fjahanian@apple.com
Subject: Re: GCC beaten by ICC in stupid trig test!
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:48:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4061F6EF.3090803@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040324110433.A2050@synopsys.com>
Joe Buck wrote:
> No. Why would we need such a thing? If the user does not care about
> order of evaluation, the user can write a+b+c . As someone said, right
> now we can't tell the difference between a+b+c; if we turn it into GIMPLE
> and make t1 = a+b; 52 = t1+c; we can't tell if the user initially wrote
> (a+b)+c or a+b+c.
This is true as far as Fortran is concerned (I cannot speak for other
languages).
A+B+C means that the compiler could either evaluate (A+B)+C or A+(B+C)
or (A+C)+B.
If you don't write the parentheses, you leave it up to the compiler to
find the most convenient sequence of computations.
Dave Korn wrote:
> IIUIC the fact that the + operator is specified in the standard as
> binding left-to-right imply that "a + b + c" with no brackets *has* to
> be interpreted as "(a + b) + c".
No, it establishes the way the multi-operator expressions may be
combined *for interpretation*. I.e., what the expression means (on a
high level, before applying such rules as 1.4 (6) [This standard does
not specify] ... the method of rounding, approximating or computing
numeric values on a particular processor").
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-24 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-24 19:04 Bradley Lucier
2004-03-24 19:29 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-24 19:43 ` Bradley Lucier
2004-03-24 19:50 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-24 23:48 ` Toon Moene [this message]
2004-03-25 0:02 ` Toon Moene
2004-03-25 0:11 ` Roger Sayle
2004-03-25 5:56 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-25 6:07 ` Bradley Lucier
2004-03-25 8:18 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-25 16:15 ` Roger Sayle
2004-03-25 16:36 ` David Edelsohn
2004-03-25 17:09 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-25 17:47 ` David Edelsohn
2004-03-25 18:03 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-26 1:29 ` Toon Moene
2004-03-27 0:23 ` Daniel Egger
2004-03-27 0:50 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-03-27 0:55 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-27 0:58 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-03-27 1:16 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-25 5:36 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-25 8:46 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-25 5:34 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-25 7:24 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-25 8:28 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-25 18:19 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-24 20:14 ` Paul Koning
2004-03-24 21:00 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-24 22:20 ` Dale Johannesen
2004-03-24 21:07 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-24 21:38 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-24 21:44 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-24 22:49 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-24 22:19 ` Richard Guenther
2004-03-24 22:21 ` Dale Johannesen
2004-03-25 7:29 ` Robert Dewar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-25 16:51 Wolfgang Bangerth
2004-03-15 16:06 Robert Dewar
2004-03-16 8:45 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-17 0:09 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-17 0:36 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-17 5:53 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-17 7:21 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-17 9:10 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-21 16:55 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-23 19:38 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-23 19:58 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-23 20:49 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-03-24 8:17 ` Toon Moene
2004-03-24 13:50 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-24 18:25 ` Paul Koning
2004-03-24 18:51 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-25 18:18 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-27 1:26 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-24 18:56 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-24 19:10 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-24 19:14 ` Richard Guenther
2004-03-24 19:39 ` Paul Brook
2004-03-24 19:45 ` Dave Korn
2004-03-24 20:57 ` Paul Brook
2004-03-25 6:14 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-25 18:32 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-27 1:28 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-17 14:51 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-17 15:18 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-17 16:05 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-16 12:14 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-17 0:19 ` Robert Dewar
2004-03-14 23:40 GCC viciously beaten by ICC in " Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 0:12 ` GCC beaten by ICC in stupid " Andrew Pinski
2004-03-15 0:32 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 1:31 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 2:36 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 11:25 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 11:31 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 13:29 ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 13:42 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 13:51 ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 13:55 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 14:00 ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 14:05 ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-15 14:13 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 14:18 ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 14:29 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-03-15 14:28 ` Joseph S. Myers
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