Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[chrix]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:24:10 -0500, chrix <chrix2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
> Mi name is Chris, I'm from Mexico.
> Would you like send me a copy from GCC 1.0 or a less version, please I
> need the copy urgently I have looked for the copy by all the Internet
> and I have not found it,for that reason I resort to you.
> Thanks
> 
> note. I'm sorry for my awful english
> --
> Sí, soy un criminal. Mi crimen es la curiosidad. Mi crimen es juzgar a
> las personas por lo que dicen y piensan, no por como se ven. Mi crimen
> es ser más inteligente que ustedes, algo que nunca podrán perdonarme.
> 



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Sí, soy un criminal. Mi crimen es la curiosidad. Mi crimen es juzgar a
las personas por lo que dicen y piensan, no por como se ven. Mi crimen
es ser más inteligente que ustedes, algo que nunca podrán perdonarme.

Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Aaron W. LaFramboise]

chrix wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:24:10 -0500, chrix <chrix2@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Would you like send me a copy from GCC 1.0 or a less version, please I
>>need the copy urgently I have looked for the copy by all the Internet
>>and I have not found it,for that reason I resort to you.

See <ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/old-releases>.

Aaron W. LaFramboise

Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Colin Douglas Howell]

Aaron W. LaFramboise wrote:
> chrix wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:24:10 -0500, chrix <chrix2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>Would you like send me a copy from GCC 1.0 or a less version, please I
>>>need the copy urgently I have looked for the copy by all the Internet
>>>and I have not found it,for that reason I resort to you.
> 
> See <ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/old-releases>.

[I've Cc'd Jason Molenda on this, since he's the one who maintains the
old-release archive, as far as I know.]

Note that the oldest release available there is GCC 1.21.  Despite its high
version number, that release was made only a year after the very first public
release.  See the timeline here:

http://gcc.gnu.org/releases.html#timeline

GCC went through a very rapid and informal release cycle in its first year;
new releases were being created as soon as new bug reports came in.

The 1.21 release is as old as you're ever likely to find without a huge
amount of work.  You would have to track down as many old GCC installation
sites as you could find and beg them very nicely for backups from that period.
The current system operators would be unlikely to have them, so you might have
to find old operators or users who might have kept copies.  In each case the
chance of finding an old copy would be very slim.

Such are the joys of historical software research.  :)

In any case, be aware that these old releases will likely not build or run
on any modern system without a great deal of modification.

Colin

Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Jason Molenda]

> >>>Would you like send me a copy from GCC 1.0 or a less version, please I

> > See <ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/old-releases>.

> [I've Cc'd Jason Molenda on this, since he's the one who maintains the
> old-release archive, as far as I know.]


Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath for finding anything older than gcc 1.21.
Around 1995 I archived everything I could find around the net -
that got me back to gcc 1.35.  Since that time, the only discoveries
have been by some guy in the Netherlands who sends me e-mails every
year or two with a pointer to some Vax in Russia or something with
an ancient gcc release squirreled away.  I have no idea who this
guy is or how he finds them, but he is crafty.

The last I heard from him was a note a year ago on a modified version
of gcc 1.18 that might be available; this posting

http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/89-01-009

from 1989 was from a researcher in France who had modified 1.18 and
who knows, if you could track him down maybe he still has a copy
of it somewhere.  I haven't tried, myself, because I am incredibly
lazy.

But honestly, I doubt we'll ever recover anything older than gcc
1.21.  Getting back to 1.35 was pretty tricky a decade ago -- it
hasn't gotten any easier since then.  I had better luck with binutils
releases, but I don't have any gas releases older than 1.19 (May
1988).  For gdb it's 2.4 (Jan 1988) for a patched release; 2.5.1
(May 1988) is the oldest real gdb release I could find.  As much as
I'd like to have all of the releases, I don't think it's all that
important - in all three cases, the oldest verisons archived were
within the first year or so of the tool being developed.

J

Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Kurt Wall]

On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 05:53:27PM -0700, Jason Molenda took 38 lines to write:
> 
> > >>>Would you like send me a copy from GCC 1.0 or a less version, please I
> 
> > > See <ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/old-releases>.
> 
> > [I've Cc'd Jason Molenda on this, since he's the one who maintains the
> > old-release archive, as far as I know.]
> 
> 
> Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath for finding anything older than gcc 1.21.
> Around 1995 I archived everything I could find around the net -
> that got me back to gcc 1.35.  Since that time, the only discoveries
> have been by some guy in the Netherlands who sends me e-mails every
> year or two with a pointer to some Vax in Russia or something with
> an ancient gcc release squirreled away.  I have no idea who this
> guy is or how he finds them, but he is crafty.

[snippage]

You think some of the old UNIX hacks over at TUHS, The UNIX Heritage
Society, might have some pointers? 

http://www.tuhs.org/

Kurt
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Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Joe Buck]

On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 05:53:27PM -0700, Jason Molenda wrote:
> Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath for finding anything older than gcc 1.21.

There's probably somebody out there with an old 9-track tape in a closet
that RMS wrote personally, but then the tape probably doesn't read any
more.

RE: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Dave Korn]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gcc-owner On Behalf Of Jason Molenda
> Sent: 29 September 2004 01:53

> The last I heard from him was a note a year ago on a modified version
> of gcc 1.18 that might be available; this posting
> 
> http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/89-01-009
> 
> from 1989 was from a researcher in France who had modified 1.18 and
> who knows, if you could track him down maybe he still has a copy
> of it somewhere.  I haven't tried, myself, because I am incredibly
> lazy.

  His homepage at http://www.limsi.fr/Individu/pap/ is current and has telephone,
fax and email details for him.  And it looks like he may speak English, judging by
the way he's the only one of his team whose homepage is bilingual.  FYI.


    cheers, 
      DaveK
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Re: please help me!!! I need GCC 1.0

[Dan Kegel]

Joe Buck wrote:
> There's probably somebody out there with an old 9-track tape in a closet
> that RMS wrote personally ...

Nah, RMS had someone else cutting tapes.
I had some fun looking through old copies of the "GNU's Bulletins"
just now at http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/bull/

http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/bull/01/bull01.txt said in 1986:
"Although I have a portable C and Pascal compiler, it has a serious
drawback: it is a very large program, and intrinsically cannot be made
smaller.  It is also very hard to bootstrap.
The problem is that most of the compiler is written in Pastel, a
super-hairy extended Pascal, and it is also the sole compiler for that
language.  To make it smaller, we must eliminate the hair needed to
compile Pastel; then we will not be able to compile Pastel, so it must
all be rewritten into C."

http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/bull/02/nb.html said in Jan 1987,
"I am now working on finishing a new portable optimizing C compiler.
It supports the Oct 1986 draft of ANSI C and has compiled both
itself and GNU Emacs."

http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/bull/03/bull3.html said in June '87
for the first time that a tape with a beta version of gcc was available.

http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/bull/04/bull4.html said in Feb '88
that Gnu C was becoming stable, had been ported to several targets,
and was at version 1.17.

There are plenty of names in those bulletins of people who worked
on that early gcc or who distributed tapes; I bet at least one
of them still has an old copy somewhere of a tape made somewhere between
June '87 and
- Dan

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