From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24583 invoked by alias); 29 Nov 2004 23:48:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 24532 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2004 23:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.codesourcery.com) (66.160.135.55) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 23:48:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20397 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2004 23:45:44 -0000 Received: from support.codesourcery.com (HELO mail.codesourcery.com) (65.74.133.10) by mail2.codesourcery.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 23:45:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22378 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2004 23:45:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.100?) (mitchell@127.0.0.1) by mail.codesourcery.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 23:45:44 -0000 Message-ID: <41ABB49F.8000403@codesourcery.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:15:00 -0000 From: Mark Mitchell Organization: CodeSourcery, LLC User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toon Moene CC: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, fortran@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Mainline in regression-fix only mode References: <41A7A1C5.4030307@codesourcery.com> <41ABA93E.2040205@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> In-Reply-To: <41ABA93E.2040205@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2004-11/txt/msg01177.txt.bz2 Toon Moene wrote: > Mark Mitchell wrote: > >> This message is a reminder that the mainline is now in regression-fix >> only mode. >> >> That means that (aside from documentation) no new features or cleanups >> should be committed, unless that's part of fixing a regression. > > > May we, the Fortran maintainers, assume a wider mandate, as gfortran is > new with this release ? Specifically, can we fix *all* bugs we manage, > even if this means overhauling large parts of the front end / run time > library ? That's a hard question. I understand that gfortran is new technology, and that people are assuming that distributors will ship g77 as well, for backwards compatibility. That would argue in favor of letting you do anything you want. At the same time, I think it's important that gfortran perform reasonably well in this release. If it is in a really unstable state, then I think it will be hard to make the release. And that will be a problem for everyone else. Finally, it is in our collective best interest to eliminate the need to ship g77 as soon as possible. I feel hesitant to confine you to regressions per se. On the other hand, I don't think overhauling large parts of the system is a very good idea at this point. I'd like to see you use your judgement to balance risk vs. reward carefully. -- Mark Mitchell CodeSourcery, LLC mark@codesourcery.com (916) 791-8304