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From: Paolo Carlini <pcarlini@suse.de>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
Cc: Zack Weinberg <zack@codesourcery.com>,
	Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@cs.tamu.edu>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, jason@redhat.com, mark@codesourcery.com,
	dberlin@dberlin.org
Subject: libstdc++ soname and versioning (was: Re: Compiling GCC...)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42943932.6020800@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050525014728.GA23626@nevyn.them.org>

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:

>>Why?  To be honest, I keep harping on this mostly because I think it
>>should happen.  All the C++-in-GCC noise is a digression.  
>>
>>You know how much work it is for the distributors every time we bump the
>>libstdc++ soname.  Why wouldn't we want to stop inflicting that pain on
>>them?
>>    
>>
>I know exactly how much work it is for Debian.  I wouldn't mind slowing
>down.  I wouldn't mind using symbol versioning to solve the problem, if
>I honestly thought that were feasible (which I don't, for a C++
>implementation library).  But the fact of the matter is, the distros
>know how to deal with this once in a while.  I think that it's more
>important that we continue to improve the library, for now.
>
>In a couple years I'll probably think differently.
>
I agree on both accounts.

In practice, we have got an handful of bugs unfixable within the current
ABI (mostly already fixed in v7) and a major QoI issue (ref-counted
string vs MT) which certainly we don't want in anything "definitive" (x).

Paolo.

(x) What "definitive" really means in such contexts is an interesting
semantic issue: *for sure* will end with C++0x ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-25  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-23 11:50 Compiling GCC with g++: a report Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-23 12:22 ` Ranjit Mathew
2005-05-23 19:07   ` Tom Tromey
2005-05-23 18:04 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  4:57 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  4:59   ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-24 21:50   ` Kevin Handy
2005-05-25 12:02     ` Bernardo Innocenti
2005-05-24  5:54 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24  6:04   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-24  6:22     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  6:29     ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24  6:31       ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-24  7:08         ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24  7:09           ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-24  7:39           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  8:48             ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24 13:41               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  0:47             ` Russ Allbery
2005-05-25  1:24               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24 16:07       ` Paolo Bonzini
2005-05-24 16:44       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-24 23:53         ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  0:06           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-25  0:11             ` Richard Henderson
2005-05-25  0:22             ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  0:26           ` Paolo Carlini
2005-05-25  0:37             ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  0:43               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-25  0:48                 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  1:02                   ` Paolo Carlini
2005-05-25  3:14                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-25 13:30                     ` Paolo Carlini [this message]
2005-05-25 13:45                       ` libstdc++ soname and versioning (was: Re: Compiling GCC...) Theodore Papadopoulo
2005-05-25 13:53                         ` libstdc++ soname and versioning Paolo Carlini
2005-05-25 14:18                           ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2005-05-25 14:51                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25 14:52                             ` Paolo Carlini
2005-05-25 13:54                         ` libstdc++ soname and versioning (was: Re: Compiling GCC...) Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25 14:35                           ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2005-05-25 16:18                   ` Compiling GCC with g++: a report Jason Merrill
2005-05-25 12:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-25 13:33                 ` Florian Weimer
2005-05-27  3:10                 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-24  6:13   ` Andrew Pinski
2005-05-24  6:25     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-27  4:04     ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-24  6:18   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  6:43     ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24  7:04       ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-24  8:00         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  3:45         ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2005-05-25  7:45           ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  8:36             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25 13:38             ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2005-05-26 13:40               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  7:38       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  8:32         ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24 13:18           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24 23:45             ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  0:29               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  0:37                 ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  0:52                   ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  0:55                     ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  1:02                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-05-25  1:36                       ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  1:40                         ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-25  2:24                           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25 21:37                           ` hidden enum constants (Was: Compiling GCC with g++: a report) Giovanni Bajo
2005-05-25  1:50                         ` Compiling GCC with g++: a report Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  2:20                           ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  1:47                       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  2:08                         ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  2:36                           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  3:34                             ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  5:01                               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  1:12                   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-25  1:47                     ` DJ Delorie
2005-05-25  3:20                       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-27  1:20           ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-24 17:17         ` Paul Koning
2005-05-24 17:25           ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-24 20:43             ` Joe Buck
2005-05-24 21:40               ` Dale Johannesen
2005-05-24 17:49           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24  6:26   ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-24  6:54     ` Zack Weinberg
2005-05-24  7:04       ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-24 15:03         ` Kai Henningsen
2005-05-25  9:51         ` Jason Merrill
2005-05-24 10:01 ` Florian Weimer
2005-05-24 14:22   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2005-05-24 18:00 ` Diego Novillo
2005-05-24 20:41   ` Richard Guenther
2005-05-24 23:14   ` Kevin Handy
2005-05-27  3:47   ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-27  1:20 ` Marcin Dalecki

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