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From: Toon Moene <toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
To: Vincent Lefevre <vincent+gcc@vinc17.org>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point]
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:17:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <429B7506.8010107@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26669933.1117479096256.JavaMail.root@dtm1eusosrv72.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net>

Vincent Lefevre wrote:

> On 2005-05-29 18:19:19 +0300, Michael Veksler wrote:
> 
>>If more than 50 people report it, independently, as a bug then it
>>sure is a bug. You might argue whether technically it is a bug, but
>>from user's perspective it is a bug (and you have over 50 duplicates
>>as an evidence). As such it has to be dealt with more positively.

> Concerning the extended precision, there are two problems.
> 
> First there is a bug in GCC concerning casts and assignments
> (see ISO/IEC 9899: 5.1.2.3#13, 6.3.1.5#2 and 6.3.1.8#2).
> 
> But even this were fixed, many users would still complain.
> That's why I think that the Linux kernel should set the CPU
> in double-precision mode, like some other OS's (MS Windows,
> *BSD) -- but this is off-topic here.

It's not off-topic.  In fact, Jim Wilson argued this point here:

http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2003-08/msg01282.html

"The best pragmatic solution is probably to set the rounding control to 
64-bits, but then we lose access to long double which some people need, 
and we still have excess precision problems for float."

Hope this helps,

-- 
Toon Moene - e-mail: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl - phone: +31 346 214290
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-05-30 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-28 17:10 Uros Bizjak
2005-05-28 23:02 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2005-05-28 23:28   ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-28 23:29   ` William Beebe
2005-05-29  4:47     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2005-05-29 18:32   ` Kai Henningsen
2005-05-29 18:52     ` William Beebe
2005-05-29 19:24       ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? Russ Allbery
2005-05-30 16:32         ` William Beebe
2005-05-30 19:22           ` Russ Allbery
2005-05-30 15:35       ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point] Kai Henningsen
2005-05-31  3:50         ` chris jefferson
2005-05-31  5:56           ` Gary Funck
2005-05-31  6:04           ` Paul Brook
2005-05-30 15:39       ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-29  1:30 ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-29 15:57   ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-05-29 18:05     ` Michael Veksler
2005-05-30 15:34       ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-30 15:48       ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-30 15:31         ` Vincent Lefevre
     [not found]       ` <26669933.1117479096256.JavaMail.root@dtm1eusosrv72.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net>
2005-05-30 21:17         ` Toon Moene [this message]
2005-05-31 11:24           ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-06 21:47             ` Laurent GUERBY
2005-06-06 23:23               ` Robert Dewar
2005-06-09  7:44                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 12:51           ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 13:17             ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-31 13:44               ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 14:32                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-31 15:10                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 15:58                     ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-31 16:53                       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2005-05-31 17:03                         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-31 18:40                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 19:28                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2005-05-31 23:30                               ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 18:35                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 17:44                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 20:11                         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-31 23:53                           ` Vincent Lefevre
     [not found]                             ` <jefyw3jguf.fsf@sykes.suse.de>
     [not found]                               ` <20050531224258.GJ3541@ay.vinc17.org>
     [not found]                                 ` <jemzqb2eb2.fsf@sykes.suse.de>
2005-06-01  0:23                                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-06-01  8:42                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2005-05-31 17:21                     ` Mike Stump
2005-05-31 17:44                       ` Dave Korn
2005-06-01  1:57                         ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-05-31 19:27                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 19:58                         ` Mike Stump
2005-05-31 23:40                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-06-01  5:59                             ` Alan Modra
2005-06-01  7:21                               ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-06-01 17:32                                 ` Mike Stump
2005-06-01 18:01                                   ` Daniel Berlin
2005-06-01 18:33                                     ` Mike Stump
2005-05-29 20:13     ` Joseph S. Myers
2005-05-29 20:18       ` Haren Visavadia
2005-05-30 15:40   ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-30 15:31     ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-30 20:12     ` Haren Visavadia
2005-05-30 20:13       ` Robert Dewar
2005-05-30 20:34         ` Haren Visavadia
2005-05-30 20:46           ` Robert Dewar
2005-05-30 21:10             ` Haren Visavadia
2005-05-31  9:11               ` Robert Dewar
2005-05-31 12:33             ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 12:48               ` Andrew Haley
2005-05-31 13:35                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-31 14:08                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-06-22 19:44     ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? Gerald Pfeifer
2005-05-29  7:33 ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point] Ross Smith
2005-05-29  7:51   ` Joe Buck
2005-05-29  9:56     ` R Hill
2005-05-30 17:03       ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? Zack Weinberg
2005-05-30 19:39         ` Gary Funck
2005-05-30 15:48   ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point] Daniel Berlin
2005-05-31  7:40     ` R Hill
2005-05-31 12:04       ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? Russ Allbery
2005-05-31 12:08         ` R Hill
2005-05-31 17:14         ` Dave Korn
2005-05-31 17:14           ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-31 17:43             ` Dave Korn
2005-05-31 19:18               ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-31 19:43                 ` Dave Korn
2005-05-31 17:22   ` What is wrong with Bugzilla? [Was: Re: GCC and Floating-Point] Hugh Sasse
2005-05-29 12:54 ` Haren Visavadia
2005-05-29 15:19   ` Michael Veksler
2005-05-29 15:38     ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-05-29 18:16       ` Michael Veksler
2005-05-30 16:07       ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-30 15:36         ` Michael Veksler
2005-05-30 15:28           ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-30 15:28           ` Daniel Berlin
2005-05-29 17:23     ` Haren Visavadia
2005-05-30 15:25     ` Joe Buck
2005-05-30 15:31     ` Vincent Lefevre
2005-05-30 15:43     ` Daniel Berlin

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